China's Space Program News Thread

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Much better images of the lunar sample container, which has been put on display at the National Museum of China.

Height: 38.44cm, which symbolizes the average distance between planet Earth and the moon of 384,400km.
Width: 22.89cm, which symbolizes the mission duration of Chang'e-5 from launch to return.

The hollow sphere containing the sample represents the moon. Toward the base of the container, there is a map of planet Earth. The distance between the hollow sphere and the map is 9.9cm, which is a clever play on an
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Xizor

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Here it is in the flesh: the new 3.35m-diameter propellant tank from the 8th Academy of CASC. The length of the tank is five meters.


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To realize rockets are nothing more than metal balloons is both awe-inspiring and disappointing.
So much of Sci-fi marvels built in space seems out of reach with the current metal balloon launch systems.

But what humans have accomplished with these metal balloons - with a controlled explosion at the rear- is just inspiring.

We have to look at other fundamentally different ways to launch heavier payload into space.
 

taxiya

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Luan Enjie, first chief commander of the China lunar exploration program, about the launch vehicle with a payload capability of 100 tons
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Comment to the video and the article.

The English subtitle of the video and the globaltimes report on the subject made a mistake of what Luan Enjie said. They both said "100 tonnes payload to the moon". Luan's words was "近地轨道达到一百吨级这样一个载荷可以到月亮去了". The sentence was broken because he was composing in the head while speaking. One thing is clear that the 100 tonnes class payload was LEO. What he missed to say in between was "such rocket" (can be used to reach the moon).

To be precise, the payload is not exactly 100 tonnes, nor that mass to the moon. Of this class, it can only be CZ-9 around 150 tonnes.
 

Quickie

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Comment to the video and the article.

The English subtitle of the video and the globaltimes report on the subject made a mistake of what Luan Enjie said. They both said "100 tonnes payload to the moon". Luan's words was "近地轨道达到一百吨级这样一个载荷可以到月亮去了". The sentence was broken because he was composing in the head while speaking. One thing is clear that the 100 tonnes class payload was LEO. What he missed to say in between was "such rocket" (can be used to reach the moon).

To be precise, the payload is not exactly 100 tonnes, nor that mass to the moon. Of this class, it can only be CZ-9 around 150 tonnes.

That is quite similar to the requirement of the SLS program.

The SLS Block 1 currently under development/testing has an LEO payload of 95 tonnes, with the aim of moving on to doing 150 tonnes for LEO with the upgraded SLS Blocks with new more advanced boosters.
 
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taxiya

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That is quite similar to the requirement of the SLS program.

The SLS Block 1 currently under development/testing has an LEO payload of 95 tonnes, with the aim of moving on to doing 150 tonnes for LEO with the upgraded SLS Blocks with new more advanced boosters.
Of course.
  1. 50 tonnes TLI is the minimum meaningful payload to the moon.
  2. 150 translates to about 50 to 70 tonnes TLI depending on the mode of launch.
  3. Ares and CZ-9 are aimed for that payload.
  4. SLS is the reincarnation of Ares.
So everything looks the same because the fundamentals remain the same. Martian's wheel is as round as the Earthling's wheel. :D
 

Hitchhiker

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So everything looks the same because the fundamentals remain the same. Martian's wheel is as round as the Earthling's whee
Yeah, but the Chinese Martians stole the wheel from the Americans Earthlings. These guys really have no idea on how forms follow functions.
 
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