China's SCS Strategy Thread

ansy1968

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Rather than not knowing, PH is playing the dangerous game of bringing US into the SCS to strengthen their own chances. The situation for them is really bad, because as people named above, their military is in many respects behind even sub-saharan African nations.

So what does PH want from this? They want US to back them in the SCS against everyone else, because continental ASEAN and China have already moved on, leaving PH behind. By bringing in someone with rough parity to China, they hope to tip the scales back.

Of course, America's thinking is different. I think the most astute US strategists realize that America as of the present does not have the hard power to credibly threaten China with a military operation against Taiwan. In order to even begin to present a serious threat, more bases and more hardware is needed. Therefore, US is not there to help PH with its paltry disputes against other ASEAN, but they want to threaten China and make China commit more resources towards defense.

So even if China may use many different methods to prevent US from attacking even after a buildup, if US can build enough forces to credibly threaten China, US would have succeeded in disrupting the situation in Asia.
I'm not trying to defend Marcos Jr BUT the main reason is his FAMILY had a lot of skeleton hidden in the closet, that is his Raison d'etre , Family first before country.
 

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A good read on how the tough guy Aquino blunder and finally lost Panatag Shoal , over-playing his role and confident that US will come to their rescue is Manila times using this to hint Marcos Jr?
Bro he is a Chinese Mestizo and so is Marcos, both Family is a curse to our country, they're playing this drama for the last 50 years and it may last for perpetuity. It's a sad Spanish telenovela with serious repercussion. :(
 

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Bro he is a Chinese Mestizo and so is Marcos, both Family is a curse to our country, they're playing this drama for the last 50 years and it may last for perpetuity. It's a sad Spanish telenovela with serious repercussion. :(
Nothing lasts forever.

As for when things will change, and what things will change to? I dunno, but I do know that change will happen with enough time. It could sadly be in multiple decades, or it could be faster and happen possibly within just a decade or two.
 

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Rather than not knowing, PH is playing the dangerous game of bringing US into the SCS to strengthen their own chances. The situation for them is really bad, because as people named above, their military is in many respects behind even sub-saharan African nations.

So what does PH want from this? They want US to back them in the SCS against everyone else, because continental ASEAN and China have already moved on, leaving PH behind. By bringing in someone with rough parity to China, they hope to tip the scales back.

Of course, America's thinking is different. I think the most astute US strategists realize that America as of the present does not have the hard power to credibly threaten China with a military operation against Taiwan. In order to even begin to present a serious threat, more bases and more hardware is needed. Therefore, US is not there to help PH with its paltry disputes against other ASEAN, but they want to threaten China and make China commit more resources towards defense.

So even if China may use many different methods to prevent US from attacking even after a buildup, if US can build enough forces to credibly threaten China, US would have succeeded in disrupting the situation in Asia.
meh, these 4 bases really make no difference. If America puts a bunch of troops and F-35s there, they will just be easier targets. It's pretty much the worst idea to put assets right next to PLA's firing range
 

ansy1968

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Nothing lasts forever.

As for when things will change, and what things will change to? I dunno, but I do know that change will happen with enough time. It could sadly be in multiple decades, or it could be faster and happen possibly within just a decade or two.
Bro unfortunately Philippine politics is a Family Business, IF you follow the politics here the Family Feud started in 1970 when Ninoy Aquino the husband of Cory Aquino and the father of Pinoy Jr launch his presidential Campaign with the support of the US. He is an Amboy (American Boy) being employed by the CIA. The Aquino Family is part of the old landed gentry with him marrying Cory of the powerful Cojuangco oligarchy they solidify the vote rich Central Luzon, with its proximity to Metro Manila assured his victory for 1972 presidential election BUT Marcos spoiled his plan by declaring Martial Law in 1971, thus started the feud until now. I thought it will end with Duterte victory and allowing the Marcos burial early on his term ( Duterte takes a lot of hit from MSM) BUT the ghost still linger with new family members entering politics.
 

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China places buoys in Nansha Islands in South China Sea, 'demonstrating sovereignty, jurisdiction'


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, Xu Yelu and Guo Yuandan Published: May 24, 2023 08:28 PM

A lighthouse and a stele on Yongshu reef, Nansha Islands Photo: VCG

A lighthouse and a stele on Yongshu reef, Nansha Islands Photo: VCG

China announced on Wednesday that it has recently placed three buoys in some reefs of the Nansha Islands in the South China Sea, a move experts said serves to not only provide navigation safety, but also shows that China is safeguarding its territorial sovereignty, demonstrating it is the true owner of South China Sea islands.

To ensure navigation and the safe operation of vessels, the Southern Navigation Service Center of the Maritime Safety Administration under China's Ministry of Transport recently placed three light buoys in waters off the Huo'ai, the Niu'e and the Nanxun reefs of the Nansha Islands, the ministry said in a press release on Wednesday.

The announcement came after the Philippines said earlier this month that it had placed navigational buoys within its self-proclaimed exclusive economic zone in an attempt to claim sovereignty over the Nansha Islands, Reuters reported on May 14.

According to the Philippine Coast Guard, it installed the buoys in five areas, including the Niu'e and the Huo'ai reefs, Philippine news website inquirer.net reported. It means that at least two Chinese buoys are placed in places overlapping the Philippine ones, observers pointed out.

China's buoy placements show it has the capability and the determination to stabilize the situation in the South China Sea, Xu Liping, director of the Center for Southeast Asian Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times on Wednesday

China does not want to see turbulence in the region, nor does it want any party to take provocative moves to stimulate or escalate tensions in the South China Sea, Xu said.

As the true owner of islands and reefs in the South China Sea, China's buoy placements are proof of its effective administration and exercise of rights in safeguarding its national sovereignty, territorial integrity and maritime rights, Ding Duo, deputy director of the Research Center for Oceans Law and Policy at China's National Institute for South China Sea Studies, told the Global Times on Wednesday.

By placing the buoys, China is also fulfilling its international obligation as the largest country in the region, providing maritime public goods to the international community to safeguard navigation safety, Ding said.

In 2015, China built the lighthouses on the Huayang Reef and Chigua Reef of the Nansha Islands in the South China Sea, providing passing vessels with efficient guidance and substantially improving navigational safety.

Tensions in the South China Sea have been rising after the US gained access to four additional military bases of the Philippines in April, and the largest-ever US-Philippines Balikatan joint military exercise this year targeting China, observers said.

As a country from outside the region, the US is instigating the Philippines to make provocations against China and uses it as a forward deployment outpost, so it can reinforce the weaker part in the first island chain which aims to contain China, analysts said.

At a time when a Cold War mentality as well as regional bloc confrontation are resurging, it is important to iron out differences and show China's positive will to safeguard peace and stability in the South China Sea, promote cooperation in less-sensitive fields and deepen maritime governance cooperation in the region, experts said.
 
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