China's SCS Strategy Thread


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China bombers also have been “quite active in the South China Sea, in particular, almost every day” and sometimes in the East China Sea, Wilsbach said. “So, we’re seeing their activities perhaps as counter to what we’ve been doing.”
 

Hendrik_2000

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Yeah but this is big deal next time Vietnam start beating up or burning Chinese own factory it will trigger automatic invasion

This is a HISTORIC DAY for China and All Chinese people :tup:

So with this New Defence Law, China will send their Military Expeditionary Forces if :

1. Some Random country trying to block Malacca Strait for Chinese bound Ships.
2. Some Rebels, terrorist or Random country trying to threaten Chinese Overseas Investment, Facility & Factory.
3. Some Random terrorist or country trying to threaten the Safety of Overseas Chinese people.


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China Mulls Defence Law Amendments amid Profound Changes in The World
By Liu Xuanzun and Liu Caiyu Source: Global Times Published: 2020/10/22 21:04:28


Threats to development interests added as reasons for defense mobilization

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Making their debut in the general public for the first time, DF-17 missiles join the National Day parade held in Beijing on October 1, 2019. Photo: Fan Lingzhi/GT

China is mulling amendments to its Law on National Defence amid profound changes in the world over the past two decades by adding key formulations, including threats to the country's development interests, as reasons for defense mobilization, and involvement in global security governance.

With China's development interests growing alongside the country's peaceful development, it has more and more overseas interests, including strategic transport lanes and Chinese citizens overseas and investments, which could be vulnerable to terrorism, regional instabilities as well as hostile attacks and lockdowns, with the proposed law amendments aiming to work in tandem with military reform to ensure China's peaceful development and growing interests around the world have the backing of defense forces when needed, analysts said on Thursday.

The amendment draft to the Law on National Defence was released on the website of the National People's Congress (NPC) on Wednesday, soliciting opinions from the general public from Wednesday to November 19, after the draft was deliberated by the NPC Standing Committee at a plenary session in Beijing. General Wei Fenghe, a Central Military Commission (CMC) member, a State Councilor and the Minister of National Defense, explained the draft in detail, media reported on Wednesday.

Wei said that the current Law on National Defense, which came into effect in 1997, cannot fully adapt to new missions and the requirements for the development of national defense and the Chinese military; therefore, it needs to be amended.

The world's strategic situation has undergone profound changes over the last 20 years, as the world has seen international strategic competition on the rise, continually increasing global and regional security issues, non-stop armed conflicts and regional warfare, and increasingly obvious instability and uncertainty in international security, Wei said.

Wei also noted that China is in a key period of strategic opportunity for development and is facing even more complicated security threats and challenges.

The draft amendment states that when China's sovereignty, unity, territorial integrity, and security and development interests are under threat, the country can conduct nationwide or local defense mobilization. The "development interests" part is a new addition to the current law.

China's development interests mainly involve two aspects; that is, domestic and overseas, Xu Guangyu, a senior adviser to the China Arms Control and Disarmament Association, told the Global Times on Thursday.

Domestic development interests include the likes of economical operation, and if these normal activities are contained or sabotaged by external forces by, for example, severe trade blockades, it should be viewed as a serious threat, Xu said.

Overseas development interests include China's overseas economic activities including investments and cooperation, such as China-proposed Belt and Road Initiative. China will need to make countermeasures if these operations are intentionally blocked by regional warfare or lockdowns, Xu said
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China's domestic development relies on overseas transport lanes for trade and energy supplies, and China now has a large number of investments overseas, Song Zhongping, a Chinese military expert and TV commentator, told the Global Times on Thursday.
 

ansy1968

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I once mention that Australia fear is not China but Indonesia, well here's the proof. They are actively implementing their hybrid war, West Papua is rich in natural resources and if ably ply away from Indonesia it may serve as a bulwark for Australia. The native can be easily assimilated just as the British had done century ago in Australia.


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More than a dozen university students have been injured in an incident in the Papuan capital, Jayapura, with witnesses claiming Indonesian troops opened fire to disperse a peaceful rally.
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silentlurker

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Eventually PLAN will have to come out and face the USN in the high sea. The planning would be having two carrier strike groups in the Indian ocean to protect its sea lane. One would be at Myanmar Coco island at east side watching over Indian Navy at adanman and another group stationed at island off the coast of Pakistan at the west side.
Eventually PLAN carriers has to reach certain parity with USN carrier groups.
Not in at least 30-40 years. Why would China ever sail out that far? Its primary focus is on Taiwan and SCS.
 

ansy1968

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Duterte is a rare-breed Philippine leader.

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Hi weigh2000,

The author is also one of the critic (mild) of Duterte China pivot, at least he used his critical thinking in accessing the President strategy. The term gaslighting is frequently used nowadays, but it was done early on Dutertes term. The elites and The US can't bride the man, since you can't own him why not destroy his presidency. Of all the drama in SCS the main priority of China is to removed the US from its backyard while negotiating a favorable agreement with NEIGHBORING countries. Duterte being a Hua qiao himself understand the Chinese thinking, He interacted a lot with Filipino Chinese in Davao and having a trusted aide as one. Mind you he is a true blue Filipino nationalist, but his inclination is for an Asia policy for ASIAN only.

In the ASEAN, Duterte is highly respected and is consider a leader in the BLOC, surpassing his idol Mahathir, Because he is not afraid to voice out the hypocrisy of the WEST loudly with outlandish statement ;) . The reason these two gentleman Carpio and De Rosario is so critical of him, he attack their benefactor head on and viciously. That's what happening in my country, our elite and so called statesman can be bought when rebuke begun rallying to the flag stating their love for country such traitors. FYI De Rosario is the former ambassador to the US and former CEO of Philex petroleum (who own the drilling rights), own by an oligarch elite in the name of MANNY PANGILINAN, a CEO of SALIM GROUP of Indonesia. The irony is our constitution forbade any foreign ownership of company extracting our natural resources, see the elite can violate the law with impunity, such hypocrisy.

I disagree with the author claim , Possession is nine tenths of the law, China's island construction strategy had taken a leaf from Sun tzu, It solidify the claim and bolster China security, it is really a strategic masterstroke. Regarding China concession it's for the natural resources within the SCS near the Phil economic zone. Our Malampaya gas field is running of gas in 2030, we need a replacement ASAP and China offer is very generous. A 60/40 in favor of the Philippine with China handling all the expense , it's a fantastic deal, better than we got from Shell which is less than 12% with sovereign guarantee :mad:
 
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weig2000

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Hi weigh2000,

The author is also one of the critic (mild) of Duterte China pivot, at least he used his critical thinking in accessing the President strategy. The term gaslighting is frequently used nowadays, but it was done early on Dutertes term. The elites and The US can't bride the man, since you can't own him why not destroy his presidency. Of all the drama in SCS the main priority of China is to removed the US from its backyard while negotiating a favorable agreement with NEIGHBORING countries. Duterte being a Hua qiao himself understand the Chinese thinking, He interacted a lot with Filipino Chinese in Davao and having a trusted aide as one. Mind you he is a true blue Filipino nationalist, but his inclination is for an Asia policy for ASIAN only.

In the ASEAN, Duterte is highly respected and is consider a leader in the BLOC, surpassing his idol Mahathir, Because he is not afraid to voice out the hypocrisy of the WEST loudly with outlandish statement ;) . The reason these two gentleman Carpio and De Rosario is so critical of him, he attack their benefactor head on and viciously. That's what happening in my country, our elite and so called statesman can be bought when rebuke begun rallying to the flag stating their love for country such traitors. FYI De Rosario is the former ambassador to the US and former CEO of Philex petroleum (who own the drilling rights), own by an oligarch elite in the name of MANNY PANGILINAN, a CEO of SALIM GROUP of Indonesia. The irony is our constitution forbade any foreign ownership of company extracting our natural resources, see the elite can violate the law with impunity, such hypocrisy.

I disagree with the author claim , Possession is nine tenths of the law, China's island construction strategy had taken a leaf from Sun tzu, It solidify the claim and bolster China security, it is really a strategic masterstroke. Regarding China concession it's for the natural resources within the SCS near the Phil economic zone. Our Malampaya gas field is running of gas in 2030, we need a replacement ASAP and China offer is very generous. A 60/40 in favor of the Philippine with China handling all the expense , it's a fantastic deal, better than we got from Shell which is less than 12% with sovereign guarantee :mad:

Duterte's suspension of pursuing the SCS arbitration results in 2016 had stunned everyone. You would think on the heel of the favorable arbitration any Philippine leader would build upon the momentum. This would be the conventional wisdom: Philippine being once US's colony, most of its elite indoctrinated by and embracing the US, and the arbitration being bank-rolled and strongly supported by the US. Even if pursuing it will lead to disaster for Philippine, no one would question the decision. It would take someone with Duterte's courage and out-of-box thinking to do what he did and stick to it despite all the ensuing criticism.

But Duterte's decision significantly lowered the tension between Philippine and China, to the disappointment of the US. And China and the US ended up both courting Philippine.

Don't know how the SCS problem will be resolved eventually, but I know 1) it won't be resolved if the US continues to stir up for its own purpose and 2) everyone has to compromise if a solution is to be found. Looking at China's the track records of settling border issues with the 14 countries it shares land borders, it has long since settled with 12 of them, mostly to their favor. The only one country that became aggressive got its ass kicked and is still nurturing its wounded pride today. The current resource development agreement between Philippine and China is a step in the right direction, and may set an example to future agreements among SCS claimants. Pragmatism beats dogmatism.
 

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