China Flanker Thread II

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Air Force Brat

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A Sea Fury took down a Mig-15 in 1952.
In correct circumstances a generation older fighter could turn from Turkey shoot stuff to a real headache.

I wouldn't read to much into this gents, look at Indiana Jones, guy with sword, gonna lose to guy with Handgun, BANG! If you're thinking those poor old J-8's are gonna be viable against anybody who's seriously playing the A2A game???? Bang!

Might serve as a distraction from your 5Gen??? or your 4Gen, but it won't be fun for the J-8 drivers, even two on one as the odds were?

AWAC's are NOT gonna be able to provide "targeting to those J-8s".
 

B.I.B.

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Even without AWACs, older fighter can still pose a threat under the right conditions. There are cases of Mig-25 shooting down F-18, Mig-23 shooting down F-16 & F-14 etc

OT.IMO None of the shoot downs have been conclusively proven.
Strange how the Iraqi Air force never made a claim of downing a F18. and not one peep of it from Baghdad Bob and Saddam who would have been boasting about it over the media outlets.
 

kriss

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Considering most of time the pilot has no idea he is fire upon until impact I would say AEWAC is a big enough advantage for old fighters to have a fair fight against generational advanced enemy.
 

FORBIN

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I wouldn't read to much into this gents, look at Indiana Jones, guy with sword, gonna lose to guy with Handgun, BANG! If you're thinking those poor old J-8's are gonna be viable against anybody who's seriously playing the A2A game???? Bang!

Might serve as a distraction from your 5Gen??? or your 4Gen, but it won't be fun for the J-8 drivers, even two on one as the odds were?

AWAC's are NOT gonna be able to provide "targeting to those J-8s".
The last J-8F/H are enough decent fighters BVR capable and AWACS is a Force multiplier for all aicrafts less efficient vs Stealth fighters ofc but with their more big/powerful radars in general have more chance detected Stealth remains naturaly difficult.
 

FORBIN

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Even without AWACs, older fighter can still pose a threat under the right conditions. There are cases of Mig-25 shooting down F-18, Mig-23 shooting down F-16 & F-14 etc
It never happened for F-14/18 and i don' t think for F-16 sure for Israel vs Syria, Libya
 

davidau

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another J-16, out of factory for a test flight...unit # 35?

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