2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

sdkan

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From the looks of it, Israel is really starting to struggle intercepting missiles.

Looks like Iran’s efforts paid off and now Israel’s AD is nearly exhausted, some even destroyed, both by Iranian attacks and self destruction due to malfunction.

For the time being, it appears the Iron Dome is no more.

The US military will intervene and the Americans will not let this opportunity slip away

Iran may have to surrender gracefully.

That is to declare the abandonment of the nuclear weapons program and accept the inspection by the United States
 

iewgnem

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I think people need to stop making so many hasty judgement of Iran AD is wiped out or interceptor effectiveness. All we have are footage online that are only glimpses of what is actually happening on the ground, and a lot of "Facts" are just vibe based on what we are able to see online and not even entirely everything that are uploaded online due to algorithms or missing out some footage.
The idea that Iran's AD could be wiped out while Irans missiles are clearly not is a test of critical thinking. Obviously anything fixed could be taken out in the surprise atrack and SEAD could try to hit active units just like missile launchers, but mobile AD can pop inand out of underground bases the same as missiles.

Its not a symetrical war and Iranisnt fighting symetrically, if Israel is winning they wouldnt be begging US to step in.
 

delfer

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The idea that Iran's AD could be wiped out while Irans missiles are clearly not is a test of critical thinking. Obviously anything fixed could be taken out in the surprise atrack and SEAD could try to hit active units just like missile launchers, but mobile AD can pop inand out of underground bases the same as missiles.

Its not a symetrical war and Iranisnt fighting symetrically, if Israel is winning they wouldnt be begging US to step in.
Let’s just put it this way:

Whenever we start seeing tankers casually refueling jets over Tehran, then we can safely say that AD has been eliminated.

Until then, it’s a hard no.
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
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The US military will intervene and the Americans will not let this opportunity slip away

Iran may have to surrender gracefully.

That is to declare the abandonment of the nuclear weapons program and accept the inspection by the United States
Then its a defeat. Sanctions stay, they get a no fly zone, 10 years later they're even poorer and worse with no ability to improve since supply routes are being monitored too, then the ground invasion comes to install the kings or ISIS to keep them down forever while their oil keeps getting siphoned for free. The classical Iraq playbook.

If they grind it out and simply refuse to surrender, the US has to think about its opportunity losses. They might be deterred or do some symbolic strikes only.
 

delfer

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The US military will intervene and the Americans will not let this opportunity slip away

Iran may have to surrender gracefully.

That is to declare the abandonment of the nuclear weapons program and accept the inspection by the United States
They would accept a thousand inspections if they could. But that’s not what the US wants, now, is it?

The US desires the total destruction and capitulation of the current Iranian government, and will stop at nothing to achieve that. Any negotiations will be in bad faith. Any weakness or hesitance will be exploited.

They may as well sign a deal with the devil.
 

crazyinsane105

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From the looks of it, Israel is really starting to struggle intercepting missiles.

Looks like Iran’s efforts paid off and now Israel’s AD is nearly exhausted, some even destroyed, both by Iranian attacks and self destruction due to malfunction.

For the time being, it appears the Iron Dome is no more.
If two dozen missiles are fired and multiple impacts are made, without a doubt Israeli AD is starting to be exhausted
 
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