2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

iewgnem

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An underground facility can’t stop every missile, do you think it’s a good idea to hide AD systems whose role is to shoot down missiles because you don’t want them to get hurt. Irans underground facilities aren’t invincible
They seem to be stopping more missiles than Isreal's AD have been, or did you forget you were just making the case for Israel's attempts?
Also, actually, underground facilities can actually be invincible to aerial attacks, they're not invincible overall as you can try infiltration or ground attacks, but against aerial attacks, if built deep enough, they can survive a direct nuke.

You must be really frustrated Iran is fighting this as a war and preserving forces, while your understanding of war is killing civilians and optics.
 

xyz4321

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I hope the latest meager salvo means they're preserving ammo, but there is a good chance Iran's missile force is being suppressed.

Worst case scenario, since Israel has air superiority they can keep up constant surveillance over Iran's missile launch sites and suppress them. Maybe Iran's TELs cannot just drive to a random location and shoot, they need pre-measured launch sites to guarantee accuracy
Israel has no superiority over the eastern half, probably not even over the west.
What are the chances US join in? They did all the preparation work, from air lift to rebasing fighters. The political class is giving mixed messages but I tend to believe action speaks louder.
Just one false flag away..
If Israel is hitting everything they want then they must not want to hit the missiles that Iran is raining down on them on a daily basis
AD's job is to protect the object you wish to protect from aerial attacks, Iran's underground facility check all boxes there.

Your problem is you're confusing terrorist attacks against civilians with fighting a war, which isn't surprising for an Israel supporter.
Israel has to maintain this image of a supreme, invincible force (just as Mongols once did). Irani missiles making impact on Israeli soil is not allowed in the narrative peddled by Israel. Also, to maintain that same image, the narrative must be that Israel successfully destroyed ALL Irani capabilities. Thus you have propagandists claiming so online while Israeli police cracks down on social media at home.
 

PLAwatcher12

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The purpose of Iran's very limited AD should be to focus on extremely high valued targets. Things that are valuable to the strategic forces of Iran. I don't consider tehran to be that high value. Yes, top leaders live there, but they can be replaced. What is truly high value now will be underground bases holding missile/drone stock, Nuclear plants, Uranium stockpile, Weapons factories. If Iran is able to protect these their AD is successful.
And they haven’t since they’re getting hit. Your captial city is always imporant especially when most of your leaders live there
 

iewgnem

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And they haven’t since they’re getting hit. Your captial city is always imporant especially when most of your leaders live there
Only leaders who live in Tehran right now are leaders whose job is to take hits.
Iran is a pretty big place you know.
It's funny how Israel doesn't get this because they're so used to killing civilians in Gaza.
 

jiajia99

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If you like to be cautious, how exactly have you arrived at this "fact" in the same sentence? The only people alleging 'few missile launches today' are the Israelis themselves.

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Desperate times call for desperate ... statements

Got a taste of Gaza,


This was the truck shown in previous pages apprehended in Iran,
Netanyahu sure looks quite pale nowadays, just saying
 

PLAwatcher12

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They seem to be stopping more missiles than Isreal's AD have been, or did you forget you were just making the case for Israel's attempts?
Also, actually, underground facilities can actually be invincible to aerial attacks, they're not invincible overall as you can try infiltration or ground attacks, but against aerial attacks, if built deep enough, they can survive a direct nuke.

You must be really frustrated Iran is fighting this as a war and preserving forces, while your understanding of war is killing civilians and optics.
Isreal has shot down most of Irans missiles in the last 5 days than Iran has stopped of Israel missiles. Their nuclear facilities are suffering damage and and so are their missile bases and no that’s not my understanding of war, is your understanding of war that you shouldn’t use AS systems to protect your country because you don’t want them to get destroyed?
Only leaders who live in Tehran right now are leaders whose job is to take hits.
Iran is a pretty big place you know.
It's funny how Israel doesn't get this because they're so used to killing civilians in Gaza.
Because the rest Israel killed, so your saying Iran wanted their top nuclear scientists to get killed, leaders of the military and the second in command? Idk about you but that seems really stupid idea.
 

another505

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I think people need to stop making so many hasty judgement of Iran AD is wiped out or interceptor effectiveness. All we have are footage online that are only glimpses of what is actually happening on the ground, and a lot of "Facts" are just vibe based on what we are able to see online and not even entirely everything that are uploaded online due to algorithms or missing out some footage.
 
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