2014 Ukrainian Maidan Revolt: News, Views, Photos & Videos

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TerraN_EmpirE

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I am not sure you could call them Federalist so much as Confederate. Russia has worked hard to segregate Western Ukraine. This started with the Annexation of Crimea, The opening salvo was not the MIG's (Men in Green) but a propaganda offensive, painting the emerging government as in league with nefarious forces. Followed up with the Russian troops, who then could isolate and secure the Crimean bases well payments and Favors as well as Eastern and Southern pro Russian sentiment helped farther divide the nation. The Moscow government has pushed farther for division with the refusal to recognize the Kiev government. And then when they seem like they would be willing to move to allowing recognition but they add in the Caveat that representatives from each of the Ukrainian provinces. this would amount to saying that there is not one Ukraine but a bunch of countries each independent to make there own deals.
A federation or Con federation is a Grouping of states that unite but retain a decentralized power basis.
a Federalist state is a grouping of states that centralizes it's power.

What I think Russia is trying to do now is they recognize that what ever happens the west of Ukraine is lost to them. If they move to invade it they would be dealing with a insurgency. So instead they intend to push for a series of buffer states these would form a Confederation of two or three nations as Russia makes deals with the states of Eastern and southern Ukraine areas that have a high Russian allegiance and are highly industrialized. Well like the Roman Empire the Western confederated states are agrarian and posses only limited industry. Russia would then use the Eastern and southern states to heap as much of the national debt as possible on the Western states, via extortionate Oil pricing, limiting access to resources. hoping to farther destabilize the western portion. Russia doesn't want Nato on it's boarders by segmenting the Ukraine Russia creates breathing room.
 
Russian banks and consumers will do well to hedge themselves against Western sanctions. They should tie-up with Chinese UnionPay payment system and start issuing UnionPay credit card to mitigate any risk from American sanction. Really a win-win proposition for UnionPay and Russian Bank. Why reinvent the wheel if a Russian Credit Card will be hard-pressed to gain international acceptance. UnionPay wins by gaining more intenational acceptance. Russian Banks and consumers also win by having a alternative form of payment less prone to sanctions at a minimal cost.

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Happening already. Russian Bank to start issuing UnionPay Credit Card. 300,000 cars to be issued initially.


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Bank "Orient Express" connects to the Chinese UnionPay payment system
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In April, the bank "Orient Express" plans to sign an agreement with the Chinese payment system UnionPay. About this portal banki.ru chairman of board of the credit institution Sergey Vlasov.
 
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Guys, it's early Sunday morning here, I quickly checked Central/Eastern European servers, found this:
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happened in
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which is close to Slaviansk http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/mem...s-views-photos-videos-60-6796.html#post277483

As for this video ... for the first eight minutes, there's like negotiation phase (I didn't watch it all, but remember hearing Отверай! shouted (like in "Open the door!"), but some of you might like it anyway, as the gear of the intruders is clearly visible ... then there's action-packed part, until the camera crew :) backs off
 

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So what is going on?

One thing is for sure is that the Anti Maidan/Pro Federalist Revolt is spreading rapidly out of the Regional Capitals and into the smaller cities and towns.

Another thing that is pretty clear also, is that these are not Russian Regulars; marked or otherwise, making the running and they look far more like your typical militia. Interesting to note that some do appear to be wearing Ukrainian regular fatigues or Police Uniforms.

No I doubt it that these are militias, they're behavior in holding security (360 degrees) and glancing back and being aware of their buddies in their units seems too professionally done. Even at a take over or revolt in certain specific government buildings in eastern Ukraine speaks volume about the strategy and the importance of that particular place due to importance of strategical advantage any army would try to do during a war or conflict. It't not the government building that's importance but rather the terrain, highways, river ways, check points, communications, and data gathering that's behind it that's important. Yes IMO these are FO (forward observers) disguise as militias going on a recon mission.
 
I just checked Central/Eastern European servers; there are credible reports the Ukrainian forces right now are trying to retake Slaviansk http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/mem...s-views-photos-videos-60-6796.html#post277483

It's not a movie, so I wonder if a SWAT team can recapture a building full of armed men (by gassing them or something), or Infantry has to do it with heavy machine-guns, RPGs ?? Of course I meant if the occupant didn't surrender, which I hope they would.

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What a Palm Sunday ...
 
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Equation

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Anyone knows anything about this? Watch Russia will move in with their own special forces (Spetsnaz) units in plain fatigues as well.

Ukrainian special forces were deployed Sunday to an eastern city where armed pro-Russia men seized a police headquarters and the Security Service office, the interior minister said.

Arsen Avakov wrote on his Facebook page that the "separatists" who seized the buildings in Slovyansk had opened fire on the approaching troops. This claim could not immediately be confirmed.

The unrest in Slovyansk and the nearby major industrial city Donetsk were the latest shows of spiraling anger in eastern Ukraine, which has a large Russian-speaking population and was also the support base for Viktor Yanukovych, the Ukrainian president ousted in February following months of protests in Kiev, the capital. Ethnic Russians in Ukraine's east widely fear that the new pro-Western Ukrainian government will suppress them.

Avakov, however, has described the unrest as "Russian aggression."

In a phone call with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry "expressed strong concern" that the attacks "were orchestrated and synchronized, similar to previous attacks in eastern Ukraine and Crimea," according the State Department. Kerry "made clear that if Russia didn't take steps to de-escalate in eastern Ukraine and move its troops back from Ukraine's border, there would be additional consequences," the department said.

The Russian Foreign Ministry said Kerry "couldn't give any concrete facts" to support his allegations. Lavrov told Kerry that the crisis in Ukraine was due to the failure of the Ukrainian government "to take into account the legitimate needs and interests of the Russian and Russian-speaking population," the ministry said.

In Slovyansk, the mayor said the men who seized the police station were demanding a referendum on autonomy and possible annexation by Russia. Protesters in other eastern cities have made similar demands after a referendum in Crimea last month in which voters opted to split off from Ukraine, leading to annexation by Russia.

In Donetsk on Saturday, witnesses said the men who entered the police building were wearing the uniforms of the Berkut, the feared riot police squad that was disbanded in February after Yanukovych's ouster. Berkut officers' violent dispersal of a demonstration in Kiev in November set off the mass protests that culminated in bloodshed in February when more than 100 people died in sniper fire. The acting government says the snipers were police.

It wasn't immediately clear if the men who occupied the Donetsk police building had made any demands, but the Donetsk police chief said on national television that he was forced to offer his resignation. Interfax Ukraine reported that pro-Russian protesters had invited the former police chief to resume his duties.

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AssassinsMace

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Here's another interesting video. More info of some of the other stuff mentioned in the previous video I posted.

[video=youtube;fWkfpGCAAuw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=channel%3A5343cd9b-0-2170-9556-1a1137ac5e&feature=iv&src_vid=MqUztAX7ozw&v=fWkfpGCAAuw[/video]

If the information is true, it just goes to show people who think in black and white are the danger in this world. Everything has to be good or it has to be evil. The "good guys" are stuck painting evil people they are allied with as good guys because they have to maintain the narrative they stand only for "the good." Of course if everything you stand for is the good of all, there's no need to convince because support is suppose to be automatic or you must be on the side of evil. I guess people aren't even conscious of blowback anymore. If blowback is only contained to the suckers who dared to drink the Kool-Aid and not come home, there's nothing wrong with it. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
 

AssassinsMace

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lol, like US is the only country in the world that uses that ;)

Who said that? The Russians are obviously using the same tactics of using the population against the government to make it look like a domestic issue. It's just like Russia releasing its own espionage recordings. The difference is Russia isn't claiming they don't do it.
 
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