Ladakh Flash Point

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Well... The Indians are made up of a tougher material. They don't need those fancy fresh foods... Those are for weak arse Chinese soldier cosplayer. The Indian slept in snow, eat food that are frozen rock like.

Maybe not tougher.
But it could be true that Indians can manage cold better.

We laughed at the Indian soldiers struggling in the obstacles course.
This is also observed in Singaporean Indians.
That is because Indians have more fat and less muscles mass.

Indians with high body fat may make them SISSIES in hand to hand combat,
but I believe could be helpful in fighting extreme cold.

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High body fat and low muscle mass are associated with increased arterial stiffness in Asian Indians in North India

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Oct 07, 2009

Low muscle mass makes Indians disease prone​

The scientists analysed volunteers of European, Chinese, Aboriginal and South Asian descent, and found that even among individuals with the same percentage of body fat, South Asians have a lower percentage of skeletal muscle, one of the body’s main muscle groups and the one responsible for all voluntary actions.

The researchers found that South Asian men had at least 3 kg less of skeletal muscle than Chinese and European men.
South Asian women also had less muscle mass than their counterparts of other ethnicities — by at least 2 kg.



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India TV news reported on Friday that the Indian government has backed the ambitious Char Dham road project, for "wider roads are needed to transport missiles like the BrahMos and other military equipment" to the western part of the India-China border.

So India wants to widen the Char Dham road for transporting Brahmos missiles to the border. And they think China is scared?

Song said that despite the theoretical threat to China's border security, the People's Liberation Army has been strengthening its air defense capability to intercept supersonic cruise missiles like the BrahMos.

China could even strike and destroy BrahMos missile silos and other military facilities in advance in events of conflicts, Song emphasized, explaining that "India's poor infrastructure construction in west section of China-India border limits the maneuverability and invisibility of the missile base."

Well that fact is pretty much obvious to us serious military watchers already. But to the Indian Army top brass and the Jai Hinds. They are thinking that they are facing a PLA still stuck in the 1980s. Well, they should be left to continue their delusions. Better to not educate them in peacetime. It won't work anyway.

 

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So India wants to widen the Char Dham road for transporting Brahmos missiles to the border. And they think China is scared?


Well that fact is pretty much obvious to us serious military watchers already. But to the Indian Army top brass and the Jai Hinds. They are thinking that they are facing a PLA still stuck in the 1980s. Well, they should be left to continue their delusions. Better to not educate them in peacetime. It won't work anyway.

But why?

Tha range of Surface to surface Brahmos is 300 km. India seem to be developing an ER version with 800km range but that has not materialized yet.

From this region, a 300 km range missile would barely reach Aksai Chin. Many of China's Airbases are significantly further into the Tibetan plateau.

 

[Sardaukar20]

But why?

Tha range of Surface to surface Brahmos is 300 km. India seem to be developing an ER version with 800km range but that has not materialized yet.

From this region, a 300 km range missile would barely reach Aksai Chin. Many of China's Airbases are significantly further into the Tibetan plateau.

That's the point. The current 300km Brahmos missiles have quite limited value for deep strike into Chinese territory. Off course India has the longer ranged SCALP missiles. But compared with the missile options that China possesses now, those missiles and the upcoming Brahmos ER are not very impressive.

Maybe the Indian Army wants to use the Brahmos for counter-battery fire and precision strike against FOBs? I may giving them too much credit, but its better for the PLA to prepare for those scenarios. We also cannot rule out India targeting population centers. India cannot be trusted to not do that.

 

[Xizor]

That's the point. The current 300km Brahmos missiles have quite limited value for deep strike into Chinese territory. Off course India has the longer ranged SCALP missiles. But compared with the missile options that China possesses now, those missiles and the upcoming Brahmos ER are not very impressive.

Maybe the Indian Army wants to use the Brahmos for counter-battery fire and precision strike against FOBs? I may giving them too much credit, but its better for the PLA to prepare for those scenarios. We also cannot rule out India targeting population centers. India cannot be trusted to not do that.

But there are no population centers in that part of China. Go north enough and you reach Xinjiang (Urumqi) and go east enough and you reach Lhaza.

India seem to be placing the Brahmos for targeting Aksai China operations by China. Defensive in posture, I guess.

 

[rhino123]

That's the point. The current 300km Brahmos missiles have quite limited value for deep strike into Chinese territory. Off course India has the longer ranged SCALP missiles. But compared with the missile options that China possesses now, those missiles and the upcoming Brahmos ER are not very impressive.

Maybe the Indian Army wants to use the Brahmos for counter-battery fire and precision strike against FOBs? I may giving them too much credit, but its better for the PLA to prepare for those scenarios. We also cannot rule out India targeting population centers. India cannot be trusted to not do that.

My opinion is that those missiles are only for deterrence purpose. I don't really fancy Indian's intelligence, but I seriously doubt that they are that dumb. If they as much as fire one missile into Chinese territories, they are opened to the full arsenal of Chinese cruise and ballistic missiles...

The main reason for those missiles would be to let the Chinese know that if the Chinese decided to launch an attack or to forward deploy more weaponry, the Indian would have a mean to make the Chinese hurt badly... Even if it meant hitting unarmed civilians.

 

[Sardaukar20]

My opinion is that those missiles are only for deterrence purpose. I don't really fancy Indian's intelligence, but I seriously doubt that they are that dumb. If they as much as fire one missile into Chinese territories, they are opened to the full arsenal of Chinese cruise and ballistic missiles...

The main reason for those missiles would be to let the Chinese know that if the Chinese decided to launch an attack or to forward deploy more weaponry, the Indian would have a mean to make the Chinese hurt badly... Even if it meant hitting unarmed civilians.

Well if the Indians are gonna use their Brahmos missiles. They are still gonna invite a Chinese retaliation or pre-emptive strike. Doesn't matter if they are shooting at military or civilian targets.

If India is deploying Brahmos missiles as deterrence. Then its not a strong one against the PLA. The PLA has many more cards to play against India if India decides to use their Brahmos.

 

[Xizor]

Well if the Indians are gonna use their Brahmos missiles. They are still gonna invite a Chinese retaliation or pre-emptive strike. Doesn't matter if they are shooting at military or civilian targets.

If India is deploying Brahmos missiles as deterrence. Then its not a strong one against the PLA. The PLA has many more cards to play against India if India decides to use their Brahmos.

Cruise missiles are expensive. Many cruise missiles have a quasi strategic component ( small Nuke delivery role). India has divulged that a nuclear warhead is there for Brahmos.

Brahmos would be an escalation as China doesn't lack fast and big missiles. And indeed there is an arms concentration and build up. Weeks ago China and India brought in Rocket launchers and Howitzers.

Now India's "wunderweapon" is brought.

 

[Sardaukar20]

Cruise missiles are expensive. Many cruise missiles have a quasi strategic component ( small Nuke delivery role). India has divulged that a nuclear warhead is there for Brahmos.

Brahmos would be an escalation as China doesn't lack fast and big missiles. And indeed there is an arms concentration and build up. Weeks ago China and India brought in Rocket launchers and Howitzers.

Now India's "wunderweapon" is brought.

Nukes on Brahmos? I know the Jai Hinds would love it. But from all the big noises coming out of India. There are no indications that Brahmos will be nuclear tipped. Are there sources that indicates that they have nuclear Brahmos? Or are those Indian fake news sensationalism?

Anyway if India wants to go nuclear. Why use Brahmos? They should be using the Agnis. Those can reach the major cities and bases. Off course once things get that far, it's a full blown nuclear war. Even if India uses tactical nukes on military targets, it'll still invite full-blown nuclear retaliation from China. Its just not worth the risk of nuclear war.

India have been touting about their Brahmos 'Wunderwaffe' since the 2010s. Before, it was against the PLAN. Now its for 'border defence'. I have no doubts that their Brahmos missile can hurt China. But it won't be at 'Wunderwaffe' levels of hurt. China OTOH has conventional missiles can do a lot more hurt on India.