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siegecrossbow

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I wonder if this is PLA's way of blackmailing for additional concessions during the negotiation talks. If you keep on making unreasonable demands then we'll release your officers' admission of guilt videos. Keep this going and we'll release videos of them kneeling and bawling. After that we'll make the whole documentary public. And if this still doesn't work we'll release details on what exactly happened September 2020 when warning shots were exchanged.
 

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I wonder if this is PLA's way of blackmailing for additional concessions during the negotiation talks. If you keep on making unreasonable demands then we'll release your officers' admission of guilt videos. Keep this going and we'll release videos of them kneeling and bawling. After that we'll make the whole documentary public. And if this still doesn't work we'll release details on what exactly happened September 2020 when warning shots were exchanged.
The PLA probably has hundreds of hours of videos of the captured Indians.

It can just release some frames from a 1 minute video, and humiliate India. This isnt something that India can withstand. Imagine if every other day, pictures are released which show Indian soldiers being in such condition

At some point, Modi, will either back down so China wins.
Or do something very stupid, in which case India will lose very badly.
 
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ougoah

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I wonder if this is PLA's way of blackmailing for additional concessions during the negotiation talks. If you keep on making unreasonable demands then we'll release your officers' admission of guilt videos. Keep this going and we'll release videos of them kneeling and bawling. After that we'll make the whole documentary public. And if this still doesn't work we'll release details on what exactly happened September 2020 when warning shots were exchanged.

I said days ago that China had no more leverage except other means. This is what I meant. China has no other way of forcing India off the disputed land except to put pressure on India's government like this.

This is why india's gov is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Either give up positions and give in to buffer agreement along the entire section which mean China wins Aksai Chin for good OR they continue refusing to vacate current positions they are in and Chinese side humiliates the Indian gov.

It's tricky for China in dealing with how to get the Indians off the 20%. There are no clear paths but they are clearly using the let's put pressure on India's government to come to agreeable terms at the negotiating table. Otherwise Modi is going to be dealing with Bhakts. Angry, violent morons (bhakts and jai hinds) are a double edged sword for any politician to exploit for too long. Weaponise people's emotions like Modi has done means those emotions can one day turn on him. Modi needs to act soon to stop China from continuing the pressure.
 

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They are now aware. *MichaelJacksonEatingPopcorn.gif*

brb on safari...

Yikes they could barely walk... Some of the PLA soldiers looked upset though. No doubt they didn't want to return the POWs after what the heinous acts they committed against Commander Qi and Chen Hongjun.

I wonder if this is PLA's way of blackmailing for additional concessions during the negotiation talks. If you keep on making unreasonable demands then we'll release your officers' admission of guilt videos. Keep this going and we'll release videos of them kneeling and bawling. After that we'll make the whole documentary public. And if this still doesn't work we'll release details on what exactly happened September 2020 when warning shots were exchanged.
Let's not forget these Indians maimed and mutilated a Chinese serviceman sent to negotiate, the miracle is that the PLA had the restraint not to send these POWs back in body bags.

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Also, the fact that China didn't release these photos when they could have showed the restraint and care to the Indians; Beijing wanted to give the indians face to hopefully get back to a working relationship prior to the indians' ill fated desire to jump on the trump/anglo bandwagon.
Now that these pics are coming out, and the fortification of Chinese positions, it appears China is preparing to abandon that hope and working to crush the indians along with humiliating them along the way. Makes sense really, indians want to play the sepoy, then watch as China humiliates india in front of their white anglo schoolmates.
 
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ougoah

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A lot in DFI talking along these points. I don't know why Jai Hind variety Indians are this devoid of logic.

I mean it was India that used computer game footage and presented that as news of warzone in xyz... Not China.

It was India that said Su-35 was shot down ... not China.

It was India that's using Bollywood footage of an Indian movie made about this Ladakh crisis as evidence of their narratives.

Sorry guys but it's honestly India that engages in propaganda war but as soon as things don't go their way, these guys are very quick and loud to blame others for their own crimes... lies and propaganda.

Tell me one lie China issued.

India lied about Su-35, lied about PLA graveyard, lied about crying PLA recruits on a bus, used an USAF F-16 crash and presented that as Pakistani action in Afghanistan. Used F-15 as the same. The lies from India go on I would need to spend 3 hours to list Indian lies to half its length.

Where has China lied about this Galwan issue? Where is China's alleged "propaganda".

Honestly for lurking Indians do you not understand that these photos humiliate and embarrass India not China. Why on earth would China delay release? BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO SAVE YOU SOME FACE YOU STUPID W*NKERS.

Now those deals and negotiations are failing, China has no leverage to play to force India off disputed land. Do not start your considerations/ analysis with the assumption that the disputed land is Indian and hence and PLA action there in response to Indian ones are an invasion of India. They are NOT.

Now about Pakistani actors playing these roles? Really?? Have some logic. Do you really think Indian government would allow a foreign nation to use actors to portray this OFFICIALLY? Only India stoops that low (see Bollywood film "L.A.C." being used as evidence for Indian bs). China doesn't even bother officially calling this out because Indian government is so cowardly it uses media handles to play propaganda and release bollywood scenes with Indian actors playing Chinese PLA. If these photos are not real or use Pakistani actors or whatever, wouldn't the Indian government say this???????? Wouldn't the USA always obsessed with China be condemning it to the high heavens???????? How come utter silence from both the fools?

India gov would call this stuff out in a second IF it were not true.

India gov would also provide photos and videos IF they had any captives. Hint... India lied about killing 43 PLA and lied about capturing PLA. The only PLA they captured were those single scouts getting "lost". Those aren't exactly captives in the same sense since they simply got caught. No fighting. These masses of Indian soldiers were captured, handed over their equipment and weapons and signed statements.
 

ougoah

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Honestly.

India gov didn't even have the courage to say itself officially that IA killed 43 PLA. They didn't say this. Instead Indian politicians paid foreign journalists to quote this and then recirculated that and requoted it.

No one recognises India's claim that IA killed 43 PLA.

How is that possible when PLA captured 100s of Indians and captured ALL of India's commanders and got them to write statements?

How could India have killed 43 PLA if India has zero evidence of that?

TASS is the only official source that quote 43 PLA killed and guess what? They got that info from Indian media who made it up to make India look good.

Why do you guys persist and insist? This I'll never know. Cannot understand this sort of "culture" of placation, lying, and then pointing fingers at those who are actually more righteous. Grow up. All you lot have are cheap soundbytes that aren't even measuring up. "CCP lies" blah blah blah... where?! when?! I can show you 1000 Indian media lies and 100 Indian government lies for every single CCP lie. In fact any sane, unbiased person without total hatred in their hearts could. And to think Hinduism is about all this and that. You lot certainly embody fascism and intolerance much more than old school Hinduism. Have some shame.




Why doesn't Indian gov have the courage to officially say India killed 43 PLA?? How come only China's gov is confident enough to say China lost 4 PLA and detailed it. Why does Indian government hide in shadows and behind lies they concocted but not brave enough to say?

Seriously think about it all. Learn to think critically! Lay it all out and be objective, assess information, be very critical of Indian BS since India is proven world BS master and record holder at the moment with over 200 fake news publications as said by EU itself. Why doesn't Indian gov say no China lost 43 instead of China's official claim of 4 ... here is the evidence. Instead India has said ... nothing official. It doesn't dare because it knows its lies will be challenged by China. If China's the one lying, why doesn't India say so?! Why doesn't USA say so?! or anyone else. They can't even say this because they know and you're asking for India to release photos of the 43 killed PLA? the fictional ones? Only if India actually stages photos. At least China's honest and open about this. How ironic.

Guess what happens when we're being critical of Chinese supplied info, they were all proven true. I challenge a Jai Hind to point one CCP lie out.
 
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siegecrossbow

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A lot in DFI talking along these points. I don't know why Jai Hind variety Indians are this devoid of logic.

I mean it was India that used computer game footage and presented that as news of warzone in xyz... Not China.

It was India that said Su-35 was shot down ... not China.

It was India that's using Bollywood footage of an Indian movie made about this Ladakh crisis as evidence of their narratives.

Sorry guys but it's honestly India that engages in propaganda war but as soon as things don't go their way, these guys are very quick and loud to blame others for their own crimes... lies and propaganda.

Tell me one lie China issued.

India lied about Su-35, lied about PLA graveyard, lied about crying PLA recruits on a bus, used an USAF F-16 crash and presented that as Pakistani action in Afghanistan. Used F-15 as the same. The lies from India go on I would need to spend 3 hours to list Indian lies to half its length.

Where has China lied about this Galwan issue? Where is China's alleged "propaganda".

Honestly for lurking Indians do you not understand that these photos humiliate and embarrass India not China. Why on earth would China delay release? BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO SAVE YOU SOME FACE YOU STUPID W*NKERS.

Now those deals and negotiations are failing, China has no leverage to play to force India off disputed land. Do not start your considerations/ analysis with the assumption that the disputed land is Indian and hence and PLA action there in response to Indian ones are an invasion of India. They are NOT.

Now about Pakistani actors playing these roles? Really?? Have some logic. Do you really think Indian government would allow a foreign nation to use actors to portray this OFFICIALLY? Only India stoops that low (see Bollywood film "L.A.C." being used as evidence for Indian bs). China doesn't even bother officially calling this out because Indian government is so cowardly it uses media handles to play propaganda and release bollywood scenes with Indian actors playing Chinese PLA. If these photos are not real or use Pakistani actors or whatever, wouldn't the Indian government say this???????? Wouldn't the USA always obsessed with China be condemning it to the high heavens???????? How come utter silence from both the fools?

India gov would call this stuff out in a second IF it were not true.

India gov would also provide photos and videos IF they had any captives. Hint... India lied about killing 43 PLA and lied about capturing PLA. The only PLA they captured were those single scouts getting "lost". Those aren't exactly captives in the same sense since they simply got caught. No fighting. These masses of Indian soldiers were captured, handed over their equipment and weapons and signed statements.

Deep down even the Bhakts on DFI knows the truth. Anyone with half a brain knows what has really transpired. If these images are indeed fake then the Indian government or army would’ve come out and slammed this as Chinese propaganda. Instead, they have kept silent.

The reason they maintain that these are fake is because they do need to put on a brave face on the internet to feel less humiliated about the leaked images and footages. Similar to how fans of other NFL teams kept on claiming that the Patriots cheated to win the Super Bowl despite that there is no evidence.
 

ougoah

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Deep down even the Bhakts on DFI knows the truth. Anyone with half a brain knows what has really transpired. If these images are indeed fake then the Indian government or army would’ve come out and slammed this as Chinese propaganda. Instead, they have kept silent.

The reason they maintain that these are fake is because they do need to put on a brave face on the internet to feel less humiliated about the leaked images and footages. Similar to how fans of other NFL teams kept on claiming that the Patriots cheated to win the Super Bowl despite that there is no evidence.

Some actually do and can admit it at least to themselves. The rest lie to themselves. How about that?! lol ... never seen so many w*nkers be this shameless in self delusion.

Lying to yourself about these sorts of things is so pointless and stupid. Also I wonder how much self delusion their leaders engage in. Probably a fair bit when it comes to social issues but not when it comes to military ones. They respect real consequences and understand that they can fool themselves about things like India is supa powa and doing well and catching up to real powers but they don't fool themselves when it comes to going into a shooting war. They dare not. Seems like Indian leaders are some of the most cowardly bunch of worthless leeches to have ever graced a nation.

Not only are they incompetent and cowardly, they engage in underhanded tactics but have zero magnanimity. I think most humans who are not fanatics for India or anti-China, can see that these Indian leaders are beyond pathetic to the point humans feel sorry for those who are ruled by such worthless demagoguery scum. I used to think Modi is an annoying Nazi wannabe with hilariously gringy Hindu powa antics but now I reckon Modi is really a pathetic "man". Especially when you consider how he ignores real India social issues in fact exacerbate those problems. Not to mention creeping out women.
 

siegecrossbow

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Some actually do and can admit it at least to themselves. The rest lie to themselves. How about that?! lol ... never seen so many w*nkers be this shameless in self delusion.

Lying to yourself about these sorts of things is so pointless and stupid. Also I wonder how much self delusion their leaders engage in. Probably a fair bit when it comes to social issues but not when it comes to military ones. They respect real consequences and understand that they can fool themselves about things like India is supa powa and doing well and catching up to real powers but they don't fool themselves when it comes to going into a shooting war. They dare not. Seems like Indian leaders are some of the most cowardly bunch of worthless leeches to have ever graced a nation.

Not only are they incompetent and cowardly, they engage in underhanded tactics but have zero magnanimity. I think most humans who are not fanatics for India or anti-China, can see that these Indian leaders are beyond pathetic to the point humans feel sorry for those who are ruled by such worthless demagoguery scum. I used to think Modi is an annoying Nazi wannabe with hilariously gringy Hindu powa antics but now I reckon Modi is really a pathetic "man". Especially when you consider how he ignores real India social issues in fact exacerbate those problems. Not to mention creeping out women.

The fact that they don’t even have a consistent explanation for the footage themselves is telling.
 
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