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@Kaine "invest that money to your universities, businesses, infrastructure, digitization, trade, upgrading the industry value chain"

Developed domestic device that can produce super alloys with TUBITAK support

Faculty of SBTU Engineering and Natural Sciences Department of Basic Sciences. Dr. Muhammet Fatih Kılıçaslan launches the project "Vacuum induction Melting and Melt Spinner Device" at the University of Kastamonu, 3 years ago.

Then Kılıçaslan, which is later started with the SBTU, managed to implement the project with his team in the laboratory in the Sivas Organized Industrial Zone of the University.

Turkey's scientific and technological research institution (TÜBİTAK), the device developed with completely domestic facilities, produces titanium, nickel and cobalt based super alloys, which constitute the raw material of many sectors, especially in medical, defense, aviation and automotive industry.

Kılıçaslan said the AA reporter, the device under the high vacuum and protective gas of said super alloys, making heat and sintering transactions, with the protective material of the samples produced with rapid solidified metallic strips, with the protective material of PVD (Physical vapor accumulation) with the protective materials produced with the transformation of the samples produced into fast solidified metallic strips.

Completely domestic, 10 times less costly

With this feature of the device, Kılıkaslan, which has a compact structure that has 4 main tasks, has given the following information:

"We have developed this device with completely domestic opportunities and are currently actively using our laboratory. 4 A device that is in the production of 4 devices used in the production of super alloys. So when you want to buy these devices, they give up an average of $ 100 thousand dollars. Hence If we had to buy each device separately, it would be a cost of $ 400 thousand dollars in total. We have developed this device in our own structure in our own structure, 30-40 thousand dollars with domestic facilities. Super alloys produced in various forms in the device are used in many areas. The stiffents of the solidified magnetic materials are used in the making of the magnets, the soft ones are used in the construction of high energy-efficient electrical motors and transformers. It is also available in the aviation and defense industry due to the electro-magnetic shielding properties. "

The titanium, nickel and cobalt-based super alloys produced in this machine are also known to be used in the aviation, defense and automotive industry, "It is known that these materials are used in the dental and medical implant. We are able to do all of these in the laboratory environment." said.

Kılıkaslan, who expressed these materials to gain rapidly in the university, "We want these materials to be produced on industrial scale, to be sold in domestic and out-of-scale markets. We will soon share the industrial scale with the public." spoke in the form of.

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[siegecrossbow]

Well said. I am sure that every mid-power country if really decided to throw caution to the wind and start unrealistically invest in their military they could start catching up on the latest of the military tech (would take decades though)

However we need to ask ourselves, is this approach sustainable? Can the country sustain this kind of excessive expenditure for a minimum of 1-2 decades?

Instead, why not stop this money wasting and improve the economy. Why spend all these dozens of billions to build so many warships, when you could invest that money to your universities, businesses, infrastructure, digitization, trade, upgrading the industry value chain etc

See China for example. isn't China facing more danger and risk than Turkey?
Yes it is, but did it decide to go for mass military spending?
No it didnt.

Instead they are throwing money to develop their interior and build up their economy. Now that China has a gigantic economy it can afford to spend some money on the military, which mind you, is still vastly lower per GDP than its adversary the US.

I am afraid that Turkey is going the wrong way with Erdogan. He made too many diplomatic adventures and focused on the military too much while neglecting the economy. As a result, common Turning people have drastically lower quality of life, they are poorer, and ultimately have started turning against Erdogan


IMO Turkey should forget the aircraft carrier thing, and start refocusing its investments into the civilian sector.

My 2¢

Won't comment on the economics aspect, but you do know who these two people are, right?

 

[Kaine]

Won't comment on the economics aspect, but you do know who these two people are, right?

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No I dont. Mind telling me?

 

[ougoah]

Turkey isn't actually quite as all show and talk no action as some people assume. It has delivered on plenty of projects. It is proving to be fairly technically capable. It has a decent military drone industry and fairly good military products all round. Some only do the talking and ppt presentations but Turkey has proven the skeptics aren't right on dismissing it.

TFX is going to be hard but if it has an engine supplier, it isn't impossible. A full fledged carrier? Probably not yet due to scale rather than difficulty. The SAMs and lasers developed are impressive and they exist and work! That's much more than India managed despite non stop show off and talk. Engines will take a bit of time but the problem like Boratas said, it economic and where is Turkey going to find the necessary funding. I'm personally convinced they have the brains and organisation since they have achieved relatively a lot with relatively little money and people working on the programs. If they have the funding, is it wise and necessary to go all in on military solutions to diplomatic problems? Turkey should take it one step and one problem at a time. It's already shown it is actually technically capable despite propaganda and echo chambers of its adversaries suggesting otherwise.

I'm saying this as a neutral and uninvolved person who couldn't care less. It just seems they need all this because its leader/s have decided to take big bites in many places.

 

[siegecrossbow]

No I dont. Mind telling me?

CEO of Huawei on the left and the Father of a little something called 5G on the right.

 

[ougoah]

CEO of Huawei on the left and the Father of a little something called 5G on the right.

What's the context? Who's the "father of 5G"? Wouldn't that be the countless people who work at Huawei when it was developing the vast majority of 5G core tech since 2015 at least?

There is no "father of 5G".

 

[siegecrossbow]

What's the context? Who's the "father of 5G"? Wouldn't that be the countless people who work at Huawei when it was developing the vast majority of 5G core tech since 2015 at least?

There is no "father of 5G".

He came up with the mathematical formula for it. At the most conservative he is one of the fathers of 5G.

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And Ren Zhengfei obvious respect this man very much since he arrived to the meeting twenty minutes before the professor was due to show up in 2018.

 

[ougoah]

He came up with the mathematical formula for it. At the most conservative he is one of the fathers of 5G.

And Ren Zhengfei obvious respect this man very much since he arrived to the meeting twenty minutes before the professor was due to show up in 2018.

Fair enough but there is no one mathematical formula for 5G ecosystem of technology. It would be a negligibly sized contribution BUT a critically important contribution to the slew of technologies that make up the 5G ecosystem.

I didn't realise a Turkish scientist (Erdal Arıkan pictured above) solved so many of 5G's theoretical problems. Kudos to him. Deserves recognition.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Fair enough but there is no one mathematical formula for 5G ecosystem of technology. It would be a negligibly sized contribution BUT a critically important contribution to the slew of technologies that make up the 5G ecosystem.

It is the theoretical backbone upon which Huawei’s implementation is based on. All I am going to say.

Let’s get back to topic now. I think I’ve once again contributed to the derailing.

 

[Deino]

That is frankly a juvenile response from someone who is supposed to act as a super moderator at this forum. Care to explain why you think any of those targets are not feasible? Are there any technological or industrial limitations which you know of that make these targets impossible?

I, for one, think these targets are not ambitious at all.

The Japanese Izumo class light aircraft carrier is 27000 tons. The Anadolu LHD is also 27000 tons. The Turks could modify the design and launch a Izumo type light CV in 2-3 years if they needed to. Developing a larger, Charles De Gaulle sized conventionally powered carrier in 10 years is well within reach of the Turkish industry.

The CTO of Bayraktar Defence has announced that the MIUS is in development and will fly by 2023. I'll take his word for it because he is an engineer who happens to be working on the project. If you know better, I'd like to ask you to explain to us why it won't fly by 2023? or why it won't be operational by 2030?

Plain and simple: No, nothing is realistic and even less possible within that timeframe! In fact I find such constant posts like "Turkey can have this, will have that in 202x" annoying.

Did you check how long the Chinese carrier project took until they were where they are now? And now some wants us to assume Turkey could develop, build and even more afford such a monster ... this is IMO beyond any logic. It is nothing but nationalistic chest-bumping!

Just look at the Anadolu LHD fiasco: building a foreign design LHD is one story - similar possible like manufacturing F-16s and F110 engines delivered from parts - but doing it all alone and even more being politically so plain stupid to risk being thrown out of the F-35 program only for national ego by purchasing a Russian AD system shows me there is no logic, no rationale.

And all these fancy CGs of a mini-J-20-like UCAV is yet another desperate attempt to face-saving but it won't result in an operational unmanned fighter.


As such all your requests on "explain to us why it won't fly by 2023" or "why you think any of those targets are not feasible?" should be reversed: He, you and some others are claiming there is intelligent live on Mars, and not me, why not. As such you must "explain to us why it should fly by 2023" or "why you think any of those targets are feasible?"

So far I only heard big words, but NO substance at all and please don't compare such drones like the Anka, Bayraktar SB2 or even Akinci with a stealth fighter or an aircraft carrier.