AssassinsMace
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That's not evidence. Just like Trump here thinking the same people repeating the same accusation of a lab leak with no further evidence makes it true.
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There is an interesting experiment with UK now. They have rising numbers of cases but they are still committed into their opening date.
It would be interesting to see how good or bad the UK come off this experiment.
This will also inform the rest of the world (including China), if its realistic to completely open and have the virus spreading uncontrolled if your population is sufficiently vaccinated
It would be interesting to see how good or bad the UK come off this experiment.
This will also inform the rest of the world (including China), if its realistic to completely open and have the virus spreading uncontrolled if your population is sufficiently vaccinated
Couldn’t the Feds print that much within a month anyway?
AssassinsMace
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And the CIA trained 10000 Tibetans as insurgents and when they sent them covertly into China not one of them were ever heard from again. Have you ever watched the PBS documentary, "From China with Love"? It tells of how the US has a horrible history of spying on China but on the other hand China has been able to do the very things to the US that's only written in fiction about US capabilities like how Americans thinks they can turn Chinese women into their spies. No, it's Chinese women that can get American men to turn on their country.
What terrible history?
The CIA was actually having the time of their lives before the Iranians tipped off the Chinese. Maybe build a monument for Iran if you want to thank someone.
Anyway, you are obviously not informed on the matter, so there is no reason to continue the convo.
I trust that the members who are here can read each response and make their own judgement. Back to topic now
MSM is complete silence about Pfizer and AstraZeneca not being able to prevent a surge in UK even with a high vaccination rate. On the other hand, we have news keep demonizing Sinopharm and Sinovac for being ineffective and doubtful even after WHO approval.
AssassinsMace
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It's called a history of failed operations against China. What success did they have? How did they help the US stop China?
The US Navy illegally boarded a Chinese chartered cargo vessel on the Indian Ocean in the late 90s because US intelligence received information that it was illegally shipping equipment to make chemical weapons to Iran. All they found was farming equipment. After their intelligence failed them, the US charged they were fed false intelligence. So the US network of spies fed them lies? So was it American CIA trained spies that fed the US lies or was it untrustworthy Chinese that have their own personal agendas that make up this network of spies?
bro ! I'm 100% Vietnamese , North of Vietnam , but i'm learning Chinese language , my heart always for China ! what do you think about me ?
What is the definition of Chinese? Who can be called Chinese anyway? There have been a lot discussions in the past, with interesting insights. And there are different opinions.
Without getting into the weeds, I suppose most people would say ethnic Hans are pure Chinese, although Chinese these days are not just Hans.
But Hans are not pure, they are hodgepodge of so many different ethnicity and peoples blended over the centuries. Today, to northern Chinese, people in Guangxi province look and sound more like Vietnamese than "real Chinese." LOL. When the Manchu came to rule China (or the core China), they were resisted by the Chinese mandarins and scholars as foreign. The Qing dynasty made huge efforts to blend in. They learned Chinese and Chinese cultures, respected Chinese traditions and scholars. Some of the Qing emperors and royals became deeply versed in Chinese classics and culture, think of Emperor Kangxi, Emperor Qianlong and the nobles such as ，considered by some as the best Chinese classic poet/词人 in the last three hundred years. Over time, they were accepted as Chinese. When the Japan invaded China back in the 1930's, it was said that they made an argument that if Manchu could invade and rule China and eventually were accepted as Chinese, why couldn't they? After all, Japanese then believed they had preserved the Chinese culture and civilization better than the Chinese. It was a distorted and farfetched view, of course, but they did have some origin in the Chinese culture. The last Korean dynasty, 朝鮮王朝/조선왕조/ Joseon Wangjo/李氏朝鮮, identified itself as mini-China because of its adoption of Chinese culture and refused to consider Qing as a proper Chinese dynasty for many years.
I suppose all these lead us to the conclusion that in the broadest sense, Chinese is more of a cultural and civilizational concept and construct, not or less of racial, ethnic, national or geographical ones. In that sense, to be considered a Chinese, you observe and practice some cultural traits, know some Chinese history, and most important of all, understand some Chinese.
This is my simple version of being Chinese.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
And I just saw an article I think was from the Telegraph that accused Chinese vaccines don't stop outbreaks. I wouldn't be surprised that was propaganda just to counter the bad publicity of their vaccines.