Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

taxiya

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I doubt Pfizer, and Moderna for that matter really has over 90% efficacy rate in real-world results. If it's really over 90%, or even 80% or so, the vaccines' producer would already by now more than happy to broadcast the result if only for bragging right.

Meanwhile, Singapore is allowing its citizen to choose Sinovac over Pfizer or Moderna due to susceptibility to the side effects of the latter two.
And now after Sinopharm being the first and only producer who published full data, the west remains so silent about their vaccines full data compared with their noise some time ago about incomplete data from China. So far the Pfizer report is still the paper that I read months ago based on partial data.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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The UK now has more cases compared with June of last year. But the difference is that most of the British have already been vaccinated. The reopening will cause the number of cases to surge into autumn.
The infection rate will definitely go up, but the things that are of interest are how long the vaccines will hold off Covid and whether or not the hospitalization rate will go up (I believe this part is mentioned in the article).
 

Phead128

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Vaccines are not suppose to prevent transmission. You can still get sick and spread the virus. If countries have not achieved herd immunity, then outbreaks can still occur even with large population vaccinated.

Vaccines do prevent severe symptoms, hospitalization, and death. These things matter most.
 

siegecrossbow

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There’s no evidence that the three researchers had contracted COVID-19 as opposed to flu or any other virus. Nor is there information about the clinical outcome of these three cases, which might tell us more.

Virologists point out, moreover, that it would be unlikely for COVID to affect only three people seriously enough to warrant hospital care without infecting hundreds of others in the lab or their households. The other victims might have had milder symptoms, but an outbreak of that magnitude would have been difficult to keep under wraps.

Guess some journalists finally realized that it is backfiring on the liberal position huh. Serves the idiots right.
The new speculation about the origins of COVID-19 has caused some stock-taking by the press, which is accused of ridiculing the lab-leak theory in all its manifestations during 2020 merely because it was promoted by President Trump.

That’s treated as another strike against the “liberal media” supposedly marching in lock-step to disdain conservatives. The mainstream press, wrote
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, “took Donald Trump’s bait, answering the former president’s dissembling with false certainty of their own.”
 
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bajingan

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More like CIA doesn't have enough agents to fabricate evidence or at least in a way that is presentable.
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From the article

"That includes not getting real-time insider information about China’s military intentions, its persistent
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and even why Beijing still exports the precursor chemicals fueling America’s
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If it true, then this vindicated my beliefs that intentionaly worsening american drug addiction crisis is one of the best way to weaken them from the inside, like i said in another thread when american middle class housewives start seeing their husbands and sons dropping like flies from opioid overdose, the dems gonna lose a lot of women voters

Looks like CCP is intent on waging a reverse opium war on the americans
 

plawolf

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and even why Beijing still exports the precursor chemicals fueling America’s
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If it true, then this vindicated my beliefs that intentionaly worsening american drug addiction crisis is one of the best way to weaken them from the inside, like i said in another thread when american middle class housewives start seeing their husbands and sons dropping like flies from opioid overdose, the dems gonna lose a lot of women voters

Looks like CCP is intent on waging a reverse opium war on the americans
You are falling for Western MSM post-truth BS lies.

This isn’t remotely like the Opium war where China sent gunboards to force America to buy these precursor chemicals. These are perfectly legal and above board traded industrial chemicals. When they are bought and exported to the US, customs declarations are filled out stating exactly what they are.

If the US really have a problem with these chemicals coming in, they can simply ban them and hey presto, no more chemical imports!

The very fact the US government has not banned the import of these chemicals says all that needs to be said about how much of a threat America really views them.

This is just another case of America trying to blame their own fuck ups on China.
 

hashtagpls

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You are falling for Western MSM post-truth BS lies.

This isn’t remotely like the Opium war where China sent gunboards to force America to buy these precursor chemicals. These are perfectly legal and above board traded industrial chemicals. When they are bought and exported to the US, customs declarations are filled out stating exactly what they are.

If the US really have a problem with these chemicals coming in, they can simply ban them and hey presto, no more chemical imports!

The very fact the US government has not banned the import of these chemicals says all that needs to be said about how much of a threat America really views them.

This is just another case of America trying to blame their own fuck ups on China.
white fragility leads to certain behaviours from white anglos:
1) excusing an Incel white shooter in Atlanta because he had a 'sexual emergency'
2) believing they can and should sue China because COVID reportedly came from Wuhan, despite them not expecting other nations to sue the US for AIDS.
3) Blaming the opioid crisis on China supposedly forcing white doctors to overprescribe opioids to white people.
 
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