Hong-Kong Protests

[Litebreeze]

And it only restricted to civil cases. Not CRIMINAL cases.

I can't quite remember the rationale for this change. I'm sure you can Google it and find out.

Wind blow? LOL

The wig of a British High Court judge flaps in the wind during a procession from Temple Bar to Westminster Abbey in central London, in this file photo from October 1, 2001.


From the article:

"Opponents of wigs thought they were anachronistic, as well as uncomfortable and expensive."​

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"While there will never be unanimity of view about court dress, the desirability of these changes has a broad measure of agreement," Phillips said.​

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The wig gives them authority and anonymity! Anonymity? So it's a way of hiding themselves.

"However, the idea of abolishing them has met with disapproval from some lawyers who feel the wigs give them an air of authority as well as anonymity."​

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If they could reformed the tradition to not require them in civil and family case, it's not impossible they will abolish it completely in the future.

HK has no obligation to wait until then, HK could just make their decision freely now. And China doesn't even need to involve itself. Wasn't it all about freedom being the main demand of those rioters last year? Chaining themselves to colonial past isn't actually freedom at all, especially paying their allegiance directly or indirectly to head of foreign country.

 

[solarz]

Finally, their head piece is highly symbolic, so please don't take it lightly. It represent their allegiance to the crown, as the head of state. Which is why some of the higher barristers are known as the Queens counsel or silk.

That explains much, and all the more reason to purge these judges from HK.

Can you imagine this happening in any other country? US Supreme Court Judge wearing a symbol declaring his allegiance to another nation?

 

[Gatekeeper]

Wind blow? LOL
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The wig of a British High Court judge flaps in the wind during a procession from Temple Bar to Westminster Abbey in central London, in this file photo from October 1, 2001.


From the article:

"Opponents of wigs thought they were anachronistic, as well as uncomfortable and expensive."​

​

"While there will never be unanimity of view about court dress, the desirability of these changes has a broad measure of agreement," Phillips said.​

​

The wig gives them authority and anonymity! Anonymity? So it's a way of hiding themselves.

"However, the idea of abolishing them has met with disapproval from some lawyers who feel the wigs give them an air of authority as well as anonymity."​

​

If they could reformed the tradition to not require them in civil and family case, it's not impossible they will abolish it completely in the future.

HK has no obligation to wait until then, HK could just make their decision freely now. And China doesn't even need to involve itself. Wasn't it all about freedom being the main demand of those rioters last year? Chaining themselves to colonial past isn't actually freedom at all, especially paying their allegiance directly or indirectly to head of foreign country.

Yes I hear you. I understand and have empathy where you're coming from. But I refer you to my previous post regarding the grand old strategy China find itself in. China is being patient.

In theory what ever China or Hong Kong does is none of any ones business. But These foreign powers (They are still quite powerful, particularly if they form an unbreakable alliance) are playing a dangerous game. I think China played it quite well over the past two years.

The Covid 19 also play it's part. And I'm still open to the ideal that US has got something to do with that.

 

[Gatekeeper]

That explains much, and all the more reason to purge these judges from HK.

Can you imagine this happening in any other country? US Supreme Court Judge wearing a symbol declaring his allegiance to another nation?

Its good thar you understand, Solarz. Also, have look at your constitution in Canada, I believe you still have the queen as the head of state!

 

[Litebreeze]

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Yes I hear you. I understand and have empathy where you're coming from. But I refer you to my previous post regarding the grand old strategy China find itself in. China is being patient.

In theory what ever China or Hong Kong does is none of any ones business. But These foreign powers (They are still quite powerful, particularly if they form an unbreakable alliance) are playing a dangerous game. I think China played it quite well over the past two years.

The Covid 19 also play it's part. And I'm still open to the ideal that US has got something to do with that.

I agree about China position. The thing that is kinda crucial is to not let the unrest happen again like last year HK riot. I suspect those rioters are still looking for another momentum to strike again. It's now like terrorist sleeping cells. It's dangerous and should be taken lightly. Last year riot was bigger than 2004, escalated. If it ever happen again, it's gonna be bigger than last year. So before it happen, it's a lot better to fix what need to be fixed.

During there riot we can see the only really force working to protect the citizen was only the police. HK was lucky the police wasn't corrupted, otherwise it's gonna be very bloody and the whole city would be in rumble.

The judges, those politicians in LegCo mostly controlled by those separatists and their enabler. This is the weakest part that, IMO, should be repaired. Judicial system should be reformed to fit current condition, the laws should be rechecked to see if there's anything that could be used as legal hole to trample the gov. Especially the laws were used since colonial time, it's normal to reinspect and adjust it from time to time in order to fit it better to the latest condition in the society.

That's actually the whole thing i was focusing on.

As for the wig and gown, i was thinking of it as only dress code, so no biggie. Until you said it has the element of paying allegiance to foreign country, it is then a problem. It's not that hard to just redefine the dress code unique to HK taste. Get some HK designers and let them design the whole thing.

 

[Litebreeze]

This sounds like they are still trying to stir discontent among others. Starting from school then to the society.

Is it really a warning? is it a threat?

Researchers have on Sunday described Hong Kong as a “powder keg waiting to go off", warning that social unrest may return after a survey they conducted showed an overwhelming majority of local students lacking trust in the government.

87% respondents have no confidence in the gov.

The Chinese University’s School of Public Health and Primary Care interviewed 250 senior secondary school pupils last year, and 87 percent of them said they have no confidence in the administration.

Again, is this genuine warning, or a threat?

“If we don’t defuse the bomb and remove the gunpowder, as long as there is a tiny seed of fire, then there will be another big explosion in future. If we don’t do something proactively, this really is an unresolvable problem.”

HK was ok before the riot. But this guy asks the official to be willing to apologise for the mistakes they made, apologise for what? For making HK ok?How wonderfully stupidly of him unmasking himself. Very conveniently left out the rioters, the local masterminds, and foreign agents who were actually causing destruction to the society and large...and not demanding those to apologise?

He urged those in power to be broad-minded and be willing to apologise for mistakes they made, saying trust cannot be built if officials don't respect the views of others.

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[Gatekeeper]

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I agree about China position. The thing that is kinda crucial is to not let the unrest happen again like last year HK riot. I suspect those rioters are still looking for another momentum to strike again. It's now like terrorist sleeping cells. It's dangerous and should be taken lightly. Last year riot was bigger than 2004, escalated. If it ever happen again, it's gonna be bigger than last year. So before it happen, it's a lot better to fix what need to be fixed.

During there riot we can see the only really force working to protect the citizen was only the police. HK was lucky the police wasn't corrupted, otherwise it's gonna be very bloody and the whole city would be in rumble.

The judges, those politicians in LegCo mostly controlled by those separatists and their enabler. This is the weakest part that, IMO, should be repaired. Judicial system should be reformed to fit current condition, the laws should be rechecked to see if there's anything that could be used as legal hole to trample the gov. Especially the laws were used since colonial time, it's normal to reinspect and adjust it from time to time in order to fit it better to the latest condition in the society.

That's actually the whole thing i was focusing on.

As for the wig and gown, i was thinking of it as only dress code, so no biggie. Until you said it has the element of paying allegiance to foreign country, it is then a problem. It's not that hard to just redefine the dress code unique to HK taste. Get some HK designers and let them design the whole thing.

Well, With the introduction of the national security law, I think the types of Violence dished out by the thugs on behalf of of the western "freedom and Democracy" is numbered. I'm confident of that. China snookered the west on this one!

This sounds like they are still trying to stir discontent among others. Starting from school then to the society.

Is it really a warning? is it a threat?


87% respondents have no confidence in the gov.


Again, is this genuine warning, or a threat?


HK was ok before the riot. But this guy asks the official to be willing to apologise for the mistakes they made, apologise for what? For making HK ok?How wonderfully stupidly of him unmasking himself. Very conveniently left out the rioters, the local masterminds, and foreign agents who were actually causing destruction to the society and large...and not demanding those to apologise?

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Note: this site seems like to publish voices from the 'other side'. So please take everything from this site with grains of salt.

I won't worry on this survey conducted on behalf HK Uni and RTHK of all people. and look at the survey sample. 250! come on, that's not even a sample of the sample.

In any case, depending where you conduct the interview, If you go to all the Christians school, I won't be surprise if it was 100%. The fact is we know a lot of teachers are "pro-democracy", and they have "infiltrated" in the educated system, and thus so far poisoned the young minds of Hong Kong. I'm in Education as a lecturer in the UK, If I did what these teachers did, I'd be carted off by men in black into a Maximum security cell by now!

 

[Litebreeze]

Well, With the introduction of the national security law, I think the types of Violence dished out by the thugs on behalf of of the western "freedom and Democracy" is numbered. I'm confident of that. China snookered the west on this one!



I won't worry on this survey conducted on behalf HK Uni and RTHK of all people. and look at the survey sample. 250! come on, that's not even a sample of the sample.

In any case, depending where you conduct the interview, If you go to all the Christians school, I won't be surprise if it was 100%. The fact is we know a lot of teachers are "pro-democracy", and they have "infiltrated" in the educated system, and thus so far poisoned the young minds of Hong Kong. I'm in Education as a lecturer in the UK, If I did what these teachers did, I'd be carted off by men in black into a Maximum security cell by now!

Yep, but that shows their hypocrisy, also showing they could be planning for next chaos.

I hope by now hk people acknowledge already of what really was hk riot all about. Its actually color revolution. Their target is to topple the gov, like what happened Ukraine and else where. It's still in the making in Thailand, hopefully Thai people realize and make it fair too.

In HK, prop the have to be aware of any kind of foreign missions veiled in various NGOs, like FLG. Don't let them sprout and don't let them gain members.

 

[Litebreeze]

HK people experience weird phenomenon lately.

HK people in UK want to come back HK..

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HK people want to go out of HK, going to Shenzhen..

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HK people being warned of waves of sabotage to Chinese owned restaurant in UK, HK immigrants must prepare to face racism..

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[taxiya]

Hi Gatekeeper,

It's me or they all look alike, this fellow had the same facial feature with Joshua Wong and I thought they're one of the same.

They are all from the clone factory of CIA who doesn't have much genetic materials from a normal human pool, so CIA has to take bits and pieces here and there, most likely from the sewer.