Hong-Kong Protests

Phead128

Captain
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
China should really not allow HK to be taken advantage of by foreign nations to destabilize and weaken China. The soft approach unfortunately does not work, there needs to be complete assimilation of HK or else it will bite China in the butt in future if it's weakened.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
Chinese already consider Christians to be too pro-western and following a western religion and consider them to be suspicious. The fact that many Hong Kong Protest leaders also christian is another indication to this. Christians are under serious dilemma right now. If they become too pro-western and go against China then China will most certainly make their life so hard they will either have to leave China or convert back to Chinese religions or atheism. New cold war is creating a line in the sand for them. They must abandon their pro-western ideology or face misfortune. Let's see what choices they make.

Yes I know. Sorry but I didn't make it clear it was sarcasm. I was basically pointing out that because the new cardinal asked his followers not to break the new National security law. The traitor Jimmy Lai accused him of kowtowing towards China.

But surly the new cardinal, like any responsible person of high position should ask their followers not to break any laws! Unlike his predecessor Joseph Zen!

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Phead128

Captain
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
The few suggestions or solution for Beijing is:

a) realize the current HK youth generation and their offsprings is a lost cause/hopeless/unrecoverable.
b) buildup Shenzhen and Shanghai, let HK slowly recede into economic irrelevance.
c) leave HK SAR status untouched for most part.
d) attract HK's top talent pool to work and live in mainland tier 1 cities. (this is key)
e) renew HK SAR status for another 50 years, but each renewal has incremental increase in control (e.g. Extradition bill in 2047, Mandarin language Patriotic education in 2097, Municipality direct control in 2147 , etc...)

The long term is complete assimilation of Hong Kong. It should be relatively easy once the current youth generation and their offsprings die off. It takes a few 50 year extensions of SAR status to erase centuries of British colonial mindset, but it will be well worth it.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General

KYli

Brigadier
I don't think it would take that long. For those brainwashed HK youth, the ones with money would have migrant to other countries and many of them have already had foreign passports. If HK economy deteriorated, most of them would leave without second thought.

As for those with no skills and money, the most radical ones might seek refuge in Taiwan and some western countries. But most of them would end up staying behind. These people would swallow their bitterness and learn to live with reality.

As mainland brightest and high skill workers take over all those financial jobs and state owned enterprise become more dominant in every sector in HK, the HK upper class and elites would either leave HK or embrace China. If HK government has the will to tackle the housing problem and expand welfare, then the lower class would have much less grievances to riot. It is important to make sure anyone receiving government helps and subsidies would understand their welfare would be taking away if they broke laws. Of course, HK education system, judicial and media and many professionals need to reform. Government needs to take more active role to ensure traitors would pay a price.

Remember when the British was in charge, they basically banned anyone who associate or sympathize with CCP from getting a government job or even become a professional. It is this kind of threat and iron fist that allow the British maintained absolute control of HK and keep Hong Kongers in line.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
The few suggestions or solution for Beijing is:

a) realize the current HK youth generation and their offsprings is a lost cause/hopeless/unrecoverable.
b) buildup Shenzhen and Shanghai, let HK slowly recede into economic irrelevance.
c) leave HK SAR status untouched for most part.
d) attract HK's top talent pool to work and live in mainland tier 1 cities. (this is key)
e) renew HK SAR status for another 50 years, but each renewal has incremental increase in control (e.g. Extradition bill in 2047, Mandarin language Patriotic education in 2097, Municipality direct control in 2147 , etc...)

The long term is complete assimilation of Hong Kong. It should be relatively easy once the current youth generation and their offsprings die off. It takes a few 50 year extensions of SAR status to erase centuries of British colonial mindset, but it will be well worth it.
2147??? I know China has some long term planning but you have some Turtle God patience, don't you? I say make things short and blunt just like the COVID lockdown. Revoke SAR status or do not renew. Make anti-disturbance laws and fill Hong Kong with higher ups that are all staunchly pro-CCP and make it unlivable in Hong Kong to be against China. Arrested every week for different charge, beaten randomly by Triads with police watching. It should be driven home and beaten to death that traitors have no good end with every rioter made an example of. There should be such fear in them that they all wear pro-China shirts singing patriotic songs, deathly afraid that one day, someone might recognize them as one of the rioters. Soon, they will believe the patriotic lies they spoke as truth and love the China that they fear most. Make the current scum respect China like the Japanese respected the US right after WWII, and subsequent generations will all gravitate to China's side of strength.
 
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supersnoop

Major
Registered Member
The few suggestions or solution for Beijing is:

a) realize the current HK youth generation and their offsprings is a lost cause/hopeless/unrecoverable.
b) buildup Shenzhen and Shanghai, let HK slowly recede into economic irrelevance.
c) leave HK SAR status untouched for most part.
d) attract HK's top talent pool to work and live in mainland tier 1 cities. (this is key)
e) renew HK SAR status for another 50 years, but each renewal has incremental increase in control (e.g. Extradition bill in 2047, Mandarin language Patriotic education in 2097, Municipality direct control in 2147 , etc...)

The long term is complete assimilation of Hong Kong. It should be relatively easy once the current youth generation and their offsprings die off. It takes a few 50 year extensions of SAR status to erase centuries of British colonial mindset, but it will be well worth it.

B and D are already happening. BYD, Tencent, DJI, are companies of the future. Actual companies producing tangible technologies instead of glorified money leeches.

This is attracting the top Chinese talent from HK (and TW) too.

The main issue is that the current generation has been poisoned because a need to pursue a hands off approach at the time. Let’s face the reality, China was still pretty backwards at the time of 1997. Now the handcuffs can come off. You don't need to mollycoddle the city anymore. That doesn't mean turning it into a police state as some are suggesting, but more like the implementation of the NSL. If this is necessary for the stability of the country, then other countries' perceptions be damned.

Honestly, this is the correct attitude. Just read some of the comments in an article about a recent Chinese rocket launching failure that exploded near a school. All the commenters (presumably mostly American since the site is US-based) seem to have China figured out anyway. They all know PRC inside out through Winnie the Pooh memes and their extensive travel through Arkansas and that time they visited New Hampshire. With attitudes like that, who are you trying to impress?

Talking about Christianity a few posts back. No wonder most depictions are of a White Jesus, only white people can save us wretches!
 
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