Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)

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Report to Congress on U.S. Navy Frigate (FFG(X)) Program
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dated today)

From the report:
As part of its FY2018 budget submission, the Navy has initiated a new program, called the FFG(X) program, to build a new class of 20 guided-missile frigates (FFGs). The Navy wants to procure the first FFG(X) in FY2020, the second in FY2021, and the remaining 18 at a rate of two per year in FY2022-FY2030. Given current Navy force-structure goals, the Navy wants to procure a notional total of 20 FFG(X)s. The Navy’s proposed FY2018 budget requests $143.5 million in research and development funding for the program.

U.S. Navy frigates are smaller, less capable, and less expensive to procure and operate than U.S. Navy destroyers and cruisers. In contrast to cruisers and destroyers, which are designed to operate in higher-threat areas, frigates are generally intended to operate more in lower-threat areas. The Navy envisages the FFG(X) as a multimission ship capable of conducting anti-air warfare (aka air defense) operations, anti-surface warfare operations (meaning operations against enemy surface ships and craft), antisubmarine warfare operations, and electromagnetic maneuver warfare (EMW) operations. (EMW is a new term for electronic warfare.)

Although the Navy has not yet determined the design of the FFG(X), given the desired capabilities just mentioned, the ship will likely be larger in terms of displacement, more heavily armed, and more expensive to procure than the Navy’s Littoral Combat Ships (LCSs). The Navy envisages developing no new technologies or systems for the FFG(X)—the ship is to use systems and technologies that already exist or are already being developed for use in other programs.

The Navy’s desire to procure the first FFG(X) in FY2020 does not allow enough time to develop a completely new design (i.e., a clean-sheet design) for the FFG(X). (Using a clean-sheet design might defer the procurement of the first ship to about FY2023.) Consequently, the Navy intends to build the FFG(X) to a modified version of an existing ship design—an approach called the parent-design approach. The parent design could be a U.S. ship design or a foreign ship design. The Navy intends to conduct a full and open competition to select the builder of the FFG(X), including proposals based on either U.S. or foreign ship designs. Given the currently envisaged procurement rate of two ships per year, the Navy envisages using a single builder to build the ships.

The FFG(X) program presents several potential oversight issues for Congress, including the following:

  • whether to approve, reject, or modify the Navy’s FY2018 funding request for the program;
  • whether the Navy has accurately identified the capability gaps and mission needs to be addressed by the program;
  • whether procuring a new class of FFGs is the best or most promising general approach for addressing the identified capability gaps and mission needs;
  • the Navy’s proposed acquisition strategy for the program, including the Navy’s intent to use a parent-design approach for the program rather than develop an entirely new (i.e., clean-sheet) design for the ship;
  • the potential implications of the FFG(X) program for the U.S. shipbuilding industrial base; and
  • whether the initiation of the FFG(X) program has any implications for required numbers or capabilities of U.S. Navy cruisers and destroyers.
 
BIW pursuing contract to build 20 guided-missile frigates for Navy
Updated November 16
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The Bath shipbuilder is one of 6 companies competing for a project that could be worth roughly $19 billion.

Bath Iron Works has taken the first step in a competition for a Navy shipbuilding contract that could be worth billions of dollars.

The company, which is owned by General Dynamics, confirmed Wednesday it plans to submit a conceptual design proposal – the submission deadline is Dec. 18 – for the Navy’s new class of guided-missile frigates, the FFG (X). The conceptual design proposal is the first step in a lengthy, competitive process the Navy will use to select one shipyard to build 20 frigates.

Inside Defense, an online news service that covers the Defense Department, reported that BIW is among six companies to express interest in the design contract.

To reduce the time it takes to design, build and deliver the frigates, the Navy is requiring the ships have a so-called ‘parent design’ based on an existing hull form that already has been in active service. BIW’s parent design will be provided by its partner, Navantia, a ship designer based in Madrid, Spain, that specializes in frigate designs.

“Bath Iron Works evaluated many U.S. and foreign designs suited to the FFG (X) requirements and found that the family of frigates designed and built by Navantia is an ideal match,” BIW President Dirk Lesko said in a statement issued Wednesday. “We look forward to continuing the productive relationship we have had with Navantia for nearly 40 years.”

The Navy released the request for proposals for its guided missile frigate replacement program on Nov. 7.

The frigate, which is smaller than a destroyer, is meant to supplement the Navy’s undersea and surface warfare needs, and to support large surface combatants.

Though the Navy has not explicitly stated the contract’s potential value, estimates based on a Nov. 9 report developed by the Congressional Research Service indicate the construction contract could be worth billions of dollars.

According to the CRS report, the Navy wants each frigate to cost no more than $950 million, meaning that if 20 frigates are built, the contract could be worth up to $19 billion.

By comparison, the CRS report says it costs about $1.75 billion to build each DDG-51 class destroyer.

Navy frigates are smaller and less expensive to operate than destroyers and cruisers. Frigates are designed to operate in low-threat areas, but would be capable of air defense operations, anti-surface warfare combat, and electromagnetic or electronic warfare missions.

The CRS report states that the Navy wants the first frigate built in 2020, the second in 2021, with the remaining 18 built at a rate of two per year ending in 2030.

BIW built 26 Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates for the Navy between the mid-70s and 1987. Since then, the shipyard has focused on building guided missile destroyers.

The Maine shipyard has been working for several years to expand or diversify its workload even as it tries to reduce costs in the face of Navy belt-tightening.

The Bath shipyard currently builds two types of guided-missile destroyers: the
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that have been the workhorses of the Navy fleet for decades, and
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After initially planning to build more than 30 of the Zumwalt destroyers, the Navy whittled down the order to just three ships. The first Zumwalt already has been delivered to the Navy, while the second and third ships are currently under construction at BIW.

Last year, BIW was one of three finalists competing to build up to 25 new cutters for the U.S. Coast Guard.

But
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– valued at an estimated $10.5 billion – to a smaller, Gulf Coast shipyard in September 2016 with no history of building military ships but a lower bottom line.

The loss of the Coast Guard contract, combined with the anticipated slow-down in work after the Zumwalt-class ships are complete, raised concerns that BIW may have to shed 1,000 or more jobs in coming years unless additional work is secured.
 
LOL I generally don't post about stuff below 100m but now I will:
Lockheed Martin gets $22m under Saudi Arabian littoral combat ship contract
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Lockheed Martin has received a $22.7 million contract modification under a wider, $6 billion contract for the construction of four up-gunned littoral combat ships for the Saudi Arabian navy.

The contract modification was administered through the US Naval Sea Systems Command under the foreign military sales program with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia providing funds.

Work under this phase of the contract will be taking place in the US and is expected to be completed by July 2018.

Back in May 2017, Saudi Arabia and Lockheed Martin reached an agreement for the construction of four improved versions of the Freedom-variant LCS Lockheed Martin’s industry team is building for the US Navy.

The export variant of the is referred to as the Multi-Mission Surface Combatant (MMSC) by Lockheed Martin.

There are few details about the specific configuration of the ships but according to a US State Department sale approval from 2015, the ships could be fielding the COMBATSS-21 combat management systems with five TRS-4D radars.

Other systems and armaments requested for purchase by Saudi Arabia included eight MK-41 Vertical Launch Systems (VLS) (two eight-cell assemblies per ship for 16 cells per hull) and 532 tactical RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles (ESSM).

Saudi Arabia also requested a possible sale of Harpoon launchers, MK-15 Mod 31 SeaRAM CIWS and MK-75 76mm OTO Melara Gun Systems.
wondering what kind of activity it actually is (plus waiting for the Saudi Arabia to pay six bil for LCSs hahaha I know they'll able to do it)
 
now noticed GDBIW joins forces with Navantia for US Navy FFG(X) frigate bid
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US shipbuilder General Dynamics Bath Iron Works has teamed up with Spanish Navantia to compete for a contract to build the US Navy’s FFG(X) frigate.

Announced by Navantia on Thursday, the agreement will see the two companies work together on evolved designs of Navantia’s AEGIS frigate family.

Norwegian F310 and the Spanish F100 frigate are Navantia designs, as are the Royal Australian Navy’s new air warfare destroyers. The first of the Australian AEGIS ships, HMAS Hobart, has been delivered to the Australian Navy in September 2017.

“We are delighted to collaborate with Bath Iron Works on the FFG(X) program,” Esteban Garcia Vilasanchez, president of Navantia, said. “Our alliance began in the 80s, when we worked together to bring the design of the FFG Oliver Hazard Perry/Santa Maria to Spain, creating a modern shipbuilding industry in our country.”

“Bath Iron Works has evaluated many US and foreign designs that fit the requirements of the FFG(X) program and has concluded that the family of frigates designed and built by Navantia fit perfectly,” said BIW President Dirk Lesko.

The FFG(X) program foresees an initial acquisition of 20 units with the award of the detail design contract and construction planned for 2020.
 
Nov 15, 2017
Jan 9, 2017

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and all of a sudden
Navy wants small warships that pack a bigger punch
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really?
The Navy’s fast-and-maneuverable littoral combat ship was criticized for lacking enough firepower and armor to survive a maritime battle. The Navy is addressing those concerns with a new class of small-but-powerful frigates that will pack a bigger punch.

The Navy asked this month for concept proposals for multi-mission warships that would be bigger and more heavily armed — and slower — than the littoral combat ships. They would be capable of shooting down airplanes, attacking other ships and countering submarines.

“The Navy has decided that speed is less important than having a warship with sufficient weapons to defend itself,” said Loren Thompson, a defense analyst with the Lexington Institute.

The Navy, which wants to build 20 frigates, is seeking an affordable design, and its directive calls for shipbuilders to use an existing design to expedite the process. The aggressive timetable calls for conceptual proposals next month. The first two ships are to be procured in 2020 and 2021.

Large Navy shipbuilders like Maine’s Bath Iron Works and Mississippi’s Ingalls Shipbuilding are among a half-dozen defense contractors expected to bid on the work. Smaller shipyards like Fincantieri Marinette Marine in Wisconsin and Austal USA in Alabama are also expected to compete.

The proposal marks a new direction for the Navy at a time when the Trump administration has vowed to increase the size of the fleet. The Navy has a goal of 355 ships.

It addresses lessons learned from the littoral combat ships, which were supposed to be an affordable way of countering post-Cold War threats including pirates and swarm boats.

The Navy envisioned speedy ships that could be transformed with mission modules to serve different roles. But the mission modules have been delayed and the ships’ cost grew. Then the Government Accountability Office questioned the ships’ survivability in battle.

There are two versions of the littoral combat ship, both capable of topping 50 mph and utilizing steerable waterjets to operate in shallow water.

When all is said and done, the Navy is expected to take delivery of more than two dozen littoral combat ships. A combination of LCS and frigates would comprise more than half of the Navy’s deployed surface combatants by 2030, said Lt. Seth Clarke, a Navy spokesman.

The Congressional Research Service said the Navy wants to spend no more than $950 million per frigate, while Clarke put the target at $800 million per ship after the first ship.

Working in the ship’s favor in terms of affordability: The proposal calls for no new technologies. That’s a far cry from littoral combat ships and larger, stealthy Zumwalt-class destroyers that incorporated new designs and technologies that contributed to significant cost overruns.

At Bath Iron Works, a General Dynamics subsidiary, officials examined U.S. and foreign designs to meet Navy requirements and partnered with a Spanish company, Navantia, to utilize an existing design from a Spanish navy frigate, said Dirk Lesko, the shipyard’s president.

Bath Iron Works helped to design the Navy’s Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates, the last of which were retired from duty in 2015.

The shipyard’s 5,700 workers who currently build Arleigh Burke-class and Zumwalt-class destroyers are eager for the opportunity to build the frigates.

“We know how to build them. We’re ready to build more,” said Mike Keenan, president of the Machinists Union Local S6, the shipyard’s largest union.
 

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They do have the high speed down...now if they can uparm them and give them at least decent FFG fire power, then we will be making progress...and I believe that is what is going to happen to the LCS vessels for the most part.


The new FFGs will not be as fast...but they will be more heavily armoured and armed and that is really what we needed all along.

I am happy with a 30-32 knot FFG that can fight muli-role and hold its own against other FFGs while doing the escort role for ASW etc.
 

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Lockheed Martin Awarded First Contract for New Saudi Frigates

This post has been updated with additioonal information on production of the Saudi frigate.

Lockheed Martin has been awarded the first contract for a quartet of frigates the company is building as part of a $20 billion foreign military sales package to Saudi Arabia, USNI News has learned.

Last week, the company was awarded a $22.74 million Pentagon contract to modify the design of the existing Freedom-class Littoral Combat Ship class for a more heavily armed, “Multi-mission Surface Combatant.”

The new frigates will the centerpiece of the long-awaited Saudi Naval Expansion Program II. SNEP II is set to modernize the Royal Saudi Navy’s Eastern Fleet as part of a wide-ranging estimated $20 billion arms package.

“These vessels will replace aging U.S.-built ships, and represent a generational upgrade to Saudi naval capabilities and will mark the first major export of a newly built U.S.-manufactured surface naval vessel in years,” read a statement from the U.S. State Department provided to USNI News.

The frigates will cost about $6 billion, the largest line item of the $20 billion SNEP-II deal. The package will also modernize the frigate’s planned homeport at the King Abdul-Aziz Naval Base on the Persian Gulf. While the Freedom-class variants are being built in Wisconsin, a final production facility has not been selected.

“We look forward to supporting the United States Navy in delivering the first U.S.-built surface combatant to a foreign partner nation in more than three decades,” Lockheed Martin said in a statement to USNI News.
“This is a major endorsement of the quality and the capabilities of the United States Navy and Lockheed Martin’s Freedom-variant surface combatant.”

The new Saudi ships will be built around an eight-cell Mk-41 vertical launch system and a 4D air search radar. The deal also includes 532 Raytheon RIM-162 Evolved SeaSparrow Missiles (ESSM) which can be loaded four to a Mk 41 cell. With 16 cells per hull, the Saudi Freedoms will be able to potentially field 64 anti-air missiles per-ship.

At about 4,000-tons, the frigate can field a crew of 100 to 130. It runs on a power plant of two Rolls Royce MT-30 gas turbines and two Colt-Pielstick diesel engines. The ship will field eight RGM-84 Harpoon Block II anti-ship missiles (ASM), anti-submarine warfare (ASW) sonar suites, and torpedoes.

The FMS case was announced in 2015 after years of negotiating between the U.S., the Saudi government and the several defense contractors.

The following is the complete Nov. 22, 2017 contract statement from the Department of Defense.

Lockheed Martin Corp., Baltimore, Maryland, is being awarded a $22,748,516 cost-plus-fixed-fee modification to a previously awarded contract (N00024-11-C-2300) to exercise an option for class services in support of foreign military sales for the Littoral Combat Ship program. Work will be performed in Hampton, Virginia (41 percent); Moorestown, New Jersey (38 percent); and Washington, District of Columbia (21 percent), and is expected to be completed by July 2018. Foreign military sales funds for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in the amount of $22,748,516 will be obligated at time of award and will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Naval Sea Systems Command, Washington, District of Columbia, is the contracting activity.

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Monday at 10:44 PM
Nov 16, 2017

now SECNAV Memo: Navy Won’t Reactivate Perry Frigates for SOUTHCOM Mission; Will Send Ships to Fight Drug War in 2018
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(just the headline as I didn't read about how LCSs will be catching dope pushers)
OK noticed
Navy to resume role in SOUTHCOM anti-drug mission
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" ... Spencer’s letter states the ship is “ideally configured for this low intensity operation.” ..." but let's wait and see if LCSs can sail under their own power now

Nov 15, 2017
Jan 9, 2017

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Jul 13, 2017
now I add one more thing I forgot to mention
Yesterday at 10:51 PM

which is in the proposal Yesterday at 1:14 PM the USN also dropped the Mission Modules ('modularity') boondoggle
it'll be interesting to see how much money they'll throw now into Mission Packages for the planned 32 LCSs ... tragicomic

...
... and here's the most recent statement about LCS Mission Modules:

"What is the status of the mission packages? When do you see those filtering out into the divisions?

I can tell you that the [surface warfare] package is performing as designed and I’m very pleased with where we are with that. We’re doing a bunch of testing with the anti-submarine warfare package, and that package is going to be a superb addition to the fleet.

We are all well-aware of the challenges on the mine-hunting/mine countermeasures side of the house, and I think it’s best to refer you back to the program on that one."

inside Interview: US Navy’s top surface warfare officer on collisions, LCS and warfare
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the point is they need additional billions for Mission Modules since they're getting White House PORK which is hulls Jul 10, 2017
Jul 1, 2017

... details emerging:

"On May 23, the U.S. Navy rolled out its 2018 budget request that included one littoral combat ship, or LCS. The logic was that since Congress had given the Navy three in fiscal year 2017, an additional one would keep both builders — Wisconsin-based Marinette Marine and Alabama-based Austal USA — afloat.

But inside the White House, alarm bells went off in some sectors. Peter Navarro, the head of U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade and industrial policy office, was looking at information indicating one ship could trigger layoffs at both shipyards. Those concerns were shared by senior Trump aides Rick Dearborn and Stephen Miller — both old hands of long-time Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions — and together they lobbied and prevailed upon Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney to add a second ship to the request."

Life support: The Navy's struggle to define a LCS bare minimum
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goes on below due to size limit
PORK instead of Warships
 
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