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antiterror13

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Once Mr Trump gets his security briefing from the FBI, NSA and CIA and the rest of the alphabet on Mr Putin & Russia he'll be seeing Russia in a whole new light. And that won't be very pretty.

Bltizo sez;
What makes you make this statement..

The same token, what make you so sure of that? so have been in the briefing?
 
Once Mr Trump gets his security briefing from ...
... the most recent (vague) info is inside
Donald Trump Transition Team Planning First Months in Office
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"... Mr. Trump also will receive briefings from Mr. Obama’s national security team on foreign-policy issues. And the president-elect and vice president-elect will begin to receive the broader daily national security briefing that the president reviews each morning. ..."

actually I was looking for military matters

(some of you have noticed I've been trying to understand, for last three years, the US military acquisition system, and still stuff surprises me hahaha):

in that article, there's no direct info, in the hearsay I quote below is "... Retired Army Lt. Gen. J. Keith Kellogg heads the defense team ...":
Transition Team Gears Up
The Trump transition team is working on two floors of an office tower about a block from the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue. The team working on appointments meets on the eighth floor.The group includes New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, the transition chairman; Rich Bagger, a former New Jersey state senator who was formerly Mr. Christie’s staff chief and is executive director of the transition; and former Heritage Foundation President Ed Feulner, the transition team’s principal domestic policy adviser.

On the seventh floor are offices of The five main policy teams are being overseen by Ron Nicol, a former Navy officer and longtimeadviser to the Boston Consulting Group. The economics team is headed by William Walton, the head of a private-equity firm, and David Malpass, who was chief economist at Bear Stearns and a GOP candidate for the U.S. Senate from New York in 2010.

The national security team is headed by former U.S. Rep. Mike Rogers (R., Mich.). Retired Army Lt. Gen. J. Keith Kellogg heads the defense team, while former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell is in charge of domestic issues. The management and budget team is headed by Ed Meese, who served as attorney general under President Ronald Reagan, and Kay Coles James, who served in both Bush administrations.

A sixth team, run by Ado Machida, a former domestic policy aide to then-Vice President Dick Cheney, is devoted to reviewing President Barack Obama’s executive actions, as well as regulation overhauls and immigration. The immigration team is made up of staffers with ties to Sen. Jeff Sessions, the Alabama Republican who has long called for tougher immigration laws, and includes a unit dedicated to figuring out how to build Mr. Trump’s wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
I'll wait and see what Mr. Trump does to those monstrous projects like F-35 which are ludicrously delayed and over budget EDIT as one of statements, which are surprising to me, came
Yesterday at 8:05 PM
"... Another winner ... is the F-35 joint strike fighter, which ... will now be free from concerns the program could be cut to pay for the coming nuclear modernization wave. ..."
Defense Industry Expecting Boost from Trump Election
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actually I was looking for military matters

(some of you have noticed I've been trying to understand, for last three years, the US military acquisition system, and still stuff surprises me hahaha):

...
I'll wait and see what Mr. Trump does to those monstrous projects like F-35 which are ludicrously delayed and over budget EDIT as one of statements, which are surprising to me, came
Yesterday at 8:05 PM
what I'm seeing is
Defense Stocks Soar on News of Trump Victory
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time will tell
 

Iron Man

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What makes you make this statement..
Simple: Trump will not be able to deliver on most of his promises; he will have a rude awakening on January 20 about exactly how entrenched and powerful the Washington elite really is. He most importantly will not be able to bring back manufacturing jobs, whether it's from China or some other developing country; they are long gone and wherever they ended up will also mostly be replaced within the next decade or so by automation. The US is on an inexorable longward decline marked by unrepentant and unrelenting deficit spending on both sides of the isle. The US Congress has utterly failed to learn the lesson of imperial overreach and will spend this country into the ground and take its citizens with it. People like Jim Rickards and Peter Schiff have it right on when they predict impending dollar crisis/collapse, for this very reason.

Anyways, in any other election cycle Hitlary would have been cast out into the darkness long before the end of the Democratic primaries, and some other more respectable Democrat like Sanders or Biden would easily have squashed the Donald in a heads-up match; the Democratic establishment threw all their eggs into the Hitlary basket with this election, and they lost. This mistake will not be repeated 4 years from now.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Simple: Trump will not be able to deliver on most of his promises; he will have a rude awakening on January 20 about exactly how entrenched and powerful the Washington elite really is. He most importantly will not be able to bring back manufacturing jobs, whether it's from China or some other developing country; they are long gone and wherever they ended up will also mostly be replaced within the next decade or so by automation. The US is on an inexorable longward decline marked by unrepentant and unrelenting deficit spending on both sides of the isle. The US Congress has utterly failed to learn the lesson of imperial overreach and will spend this country into the ground and take its citizens with it. People like Jim Rickards and Peter Schiff have it right on when they predict impending dollar crisis/collapse, for this very reason.

Anyways, in any other election cycle Hitlary would have been cast out into the darkness long before the end of the Democratic primaries, and some other more respectable Democrat like Sanders or Biden would easily have squashed the Donald in a heads-up match; the Democratic establishment threw all their eggs into the Hitlary basket with this election, and they lost. This mistake will not be repeated 4 years from now.

Hillary Clinton is like the Buffalo Bills of Super bowl losses as far as presidential campaigning. She has all the media favoritism and accolades in her favor and yet she still loses to both Obama and Trump. She is just not a good speaker like her husband Bill is.
 

Ultra

Junior Member
I suspect Trump with his Russian cohorts probably hacked the electoral system.
I still can't believe Trump can win and win so massively. Its rigged.

Its impossible for EVERY polling analysis groups to be wrong. I am more than certain Trump rigged the system. Trump even famously said if HE LOSE THE ELECTION THEN IT IS RIGGED - he was CERTAIN he will win before election even happen. Even people in his own campaign was doubtful of him winning.

Sooner or later this fraudulent election will be exposed. Along with the flawed electroal college system.
 
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Ultra

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My guess is remember how the US and PRC teamed up on the USSR? The US and Russia are about to team up on the PRC.


I am with PanAsian here, every indication from Trump shows he is about to double-team with Russia against China. Maybe even Triple team (with India - just google what he said about India).

This is the time for China to shine. To show the world what China is all about when face with powerful adversaries.
 

Ultra

Junior Member
Hillary Clinton is like the Buffalo Bills of Super bowl losses as far as presidential campaigning. She has all the media favoritism and accolades in her favor and yet she still loses to both Obama and Trump. She is just not a good speaker like her husband Bill is.


Hilliary Clinton won the people's choice. She has more than 150,000 more vote than Trump. Once the counting is completed I am guessing she is going to have more than a million more vote than Trump. Yet she is the loser.
 

Ultra

Junior Member
Question is for what purpose?

US and PRC gang-up against USSR was because both faced the pushing of USSR, China facing Vietnam, Afghanistan, Mongolia, the huge Sino-Soviet boarder, while US facing pressure in Africa, Central America and Europe.

Although Trump may soften a bit than Clinton towards Russia, the general thinking in US establishment is not going to change, so the pressure on both China and Russia remains fundamentally unchanged.

So I don't really see a drastic change among the three.

On the contrary, I think the relationship between China and Russia over the last few years has become quite warm. Still realist, but also still warm, with no meaningful disputes of any kind.
And let's be honest here, for Russia, the relationship with China has been the most productive, positive and receptive major power among any of the world's powers especially after Crimea, and I'm sure Putin remembers that.




What you described is just general international diplomacy. For your previous post to be considered, we would have to look at what realistically the US will need do to achieve your suggestion and what the US realistically would be able to achieve, versus what Russia will be willing to accept as a US offer and also versus how much they would be willing to degrade relations with China.
And on balance I think there is very little reason to believe that what a Trump presidency can offer to Russia would be enough to turn Russia against China, especially considering the US will still be there after Trump leaves the white house eventually in four or eight years time, and the US by then will still remain the world's most powerful military and the institutional think tanks and establishment hawks will almost definitely still hold the same view against Russia that they do now.

If anything I expect Putin and Xi to coordinate a little to maximize the benefits their two countries can both gain by playing Trump.


So really at this stage I think it's waaay too premature to suggest that a Trump presidency will mean Russia will join up with the US and turn against China(???), not only because we have no idea what Trumps actual foreign policy will look like (meaning the most likely answer we should be saying is "we don't know"), but also more importantly because the things the US (even under Trump) can afford to bring to the table for Russia will almost definitely not be enough for Russia to degrade its relationship with China let alone actually turn on China.

I'm actually very confused as to why you believe this is even a realistic prospect to begin with, because there has never been any indication by Trump that he would be interested in joining with Russia against China, nor do we have any reason to think that Putin would be interested in joining with the US against China either, especially when the biggest threat to Russia's security and interests will continue being the US rather than China, during and after Trump's presidency as well.



Don't forget, Putin has met with Dalai Lama even after China protested it. Can you imagine China does the same to Russia by hosting a meeting with rebel Chechen leaders?

Don't be naive that Russia is buddy with China. Were you guys born just yesterday? :D

To say it nicely, the Russians are WARY of China. If China burns Russia is NOT going to lift a finger to help, as historically shown. In fact if opportunity arise they will rob while they can.
 
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Iron Man

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Hilliary Clinton won the people's choice. She has more than 150,000 more vote than Trump. Once the counting is completed I am guessing she is going to have more than a million more vote than Trump. Yet she is the loser.
Clearly you are not familiar with the Electoral College and how elections actually work in the US. There is no evidence of "rigging" on either side. The results are not illegitimate because the popular vote differs from the electoral vote. Trump is president-elect for better or worse. Those of us who live in the US can now only pray that the people he puts around him are more restrained, even-keeled, and knowledgeable than he is.

BTW, there is no way in hell Hitlary will end up with 1 million+ extra votes when all is counted. She is just about 200,000 votes ahead now and almost all votes have been tallied.
 
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