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Trump's win shows the American media for the liars that they are. In the hours leading up to the election, every single media outlet was proclaiming their certainty of a Clinton win.

Of course, this doesn't mean Trump is going to carry out his promises. I'm betting he'll get bought off (or bought in) by the establishment, and a lot of American voters hoping for change will be disappointed.

I wouldn't say the media were liars. They simply did a poor job predicting the outcome.

As soon as I saw Trump took a lead in Pennsylvania at ~11pm CST, I knew he would win. And I went to bed.
 
Trump's win shows the American media for the liars that they are. In the hours leading up to the election, every single media outlet was proclaiming their certainty of a Clinton win.

Of course, this doesn't mean Trump is going to carry out his promises. I'm betting he'll get bought off (or bought in) by the establishment, and a lot of American voters hoping for change will be disappointed.

I wouldn't say the media were liars. They simply did a poor job predicting the outcome.

As soon as I saw Trump took a lead in Pennsylvania at ~11pm CST, I knew he would win. And I went to bed.

Not liars but puppets.
 
I would say it is the biggest upset of the year (2016), the second is Brexit

Wondering whether Trump would be able to deliver any of the promises .... talk and promise are easy ... delivering it is ... hard work

I can see now a lot of countries getting nervous, especially Japan, SK, Taiwan, SEA ... perhaps this win is a great news for China and Russia (Putin, especially)

Brexit was the real upset. After Brexit and how Clinton got the Democratic nomination rather than Sanders this should not be a surprise to the sober.
 

Hytenxic

New Member
Whoever thinks this way is probably in for a surprise.

Well, I'm not saying it will be easy for China but given the alternative (Hilary), Trump is the better choice in my opinion. Though no matter who becomes president, China will certainly become a scapegoat for all sorts of problems. This is just a thing we have to accept as China continues it rise.
 
Congratulations to Donald Trump on winning the US presidential election
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Vladimir Putin sent a message of congratulations to Donald Trump on his victory in the US presidential election.

November 9, 2016
11:30
In his message, Mr Putin said he hopes for work together to lift Russian-US relations out of the current crisis, resolve issues on the international agenda, look for effective responses to global security challenges.

The President said he is confident that Moscow and Washington can establish a constructive dialogue based on the principles of equality, mutual respect, and genuine consideration for each other’s positions. This would be in the interests of both peoples and of the entire international community.

Mr Putin wished Mr Trump success in the high office and responsibility of head of state.
 
Congratulations to Donald Trump on winning the US presidential election
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Vladimir Putin sent a message of congratulations to Donald Trump on his victory in the US presidential election.

November 9, 2016
11:30
In his message, Mr Putin said he hopes for work together to lift Russian-US relations out of the current crisis, resolve issues on the international agenda, look for effective responses to global security challenges.

The President said he is confident that Moscow and Washington can establish a constructive dialogue based on the principles of equality, mutual respect, and genuine consideration for each other’s positions. This would be in the interests of both peoples and of the entire international community.

Mr Putin wished Mr Trump success in the high office and responsibility of head of state.

My guess is remember how the US and PRC teamed up on the USSR? The US and Russia are about to team up on the PRC.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
My guess is remember how the US and PRC teamed up on the USSR? The US and Russia are about to team up on the PRC.

That's what the US has been hoping for since Bush. Why didn't it ever happen? Because as usual the US thinks countries will follow and sacrifice anything for what Americans want as if they know their place behind the US. Russians don't do that hence why the tensions with Russia. If you believe in the conspiracy theories of Trump's Russian connections, Trump is the subordinate of Russia. Why would Russia want to partner with the US on taking down China when Trump at most will be only in office for 8 years? That's an American dream not a Russian one. Russia doesn't see itself a subordinate of the US.
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
Congratulations to Donald Trump on winning the US presidential election
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Vladimir Putin sent a message of congratulations to Donald Trump on his victory in the US presidential election.

November 9, 2016
11:30
In his message, Mr Putin said he hopes for work together to lift Russian-US relations out of the current crisis, resolve issues on the international agenda, look for effective responses to global security challenges.

The President said he is confident that Moscow and Washington can establish a constructive dialogue based on the principles of equality, mutual respect, and genuine consideration for each other’s positions. This would be in the interests of both peoples and of the entire international community.

Mr Putin wished Mr Trump success in the high office and responsibility of head of state.

It is a game changer! and with Mr. Putin, it will make a difference. Mr. Trump does respect Putin, and I'm sure Mr. Duterte will respect Mr. Trump. While this is NOT PC, it is a man's world, and that friends is the way God has planned these things. You do NOT if you want to be taken seriously send a boy or woman out to do a mans job, or to negotiate from a position of power.

It is an insult in some cultures, I'm not belittling women in any way, I have the greatest respect for my wife and daughters, but I would not hand them a weapon and ask them to go deal with the neighborhood thugs???? would you???
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
My guess is remember how the US and PRC teamed up on the USSR? The US and Russia are about to team up on the PRC.

Your guess displays "paranoia"??? really, reminds me of some people who always suppose the worst about everybody??

Try looking at people a little more honestly, the US will deal with the PRC the way the PRC deals with the US, that is our culture. Somebody is fair and up front, you're fair and upfront, somebody is pushy and intimidating, you don't help them or roll over???
 
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