J-10 Thread IV

mshrief303

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Hi,
Indonesia might be buying C or B version but the better news to dig out should
be what kind of PL15, as Indonesia is getting Rafale jets & kniw one knows are they
getting Meteor with these and what standard F3 or F4 because Egypt still looking for
Meteor which been disappeared from the original deal at the time of export to Cairo
thank you
Meteor uses american components, therefore it fails under USA's ITAR and can't be exported without US's permission, so Egypt can't have it and europeans had problems giving it to Ukraine because of US. It'll be the same problem with Indonesia, especially as US plan control maritime area around it to blockade china.

Egypt only got SCALP-EG, as Air-to-Ground missile because it uses french components only, unlike it's twin brother Storm Shadow which also fails under ITAR and uses American components.
 

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Meteor uses american components, therefore it fails under USA's ITAR and can't be exported without US's permission, so Egypt can't have it and europeans had problems giving it to Ukraine because of US. It'll be the same problem with Indonesia, especially as US plan control maritime area around it to blockade china.

Egypt only got SCALP-EG, as Air-to-Ground missile because it uses french components only, unlike it's twin brother Storm Shadow which also fails under ITAR and uses American components.

No countries with right mind would consider any weapons with American component ...... creating trouble. You pay a very high price but have no freedom to use them
 

mshrief303

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Regarding foreign J-10CE deals … as it seems, so finally the confirmation that there is NO J-10CE deal at all even if some (Idiots) already claimed they were already delivered?!

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When this incident occurred, many Arabs speculated that there would be no further J-10 deals.

Regarding J-10C deal, there's no confirmation, and if it happened Egypt will do it's best to keep it secret as long as they could. There's no official or unofficial claim that Egypt preferred to not do the deal.

And about the AIM-120, it's not a deal, it's still need to pass through congress, and it's not Air-to-Air but only for SAM. It's clearly a trap & a game that the US want to lure egypt to accept it & let go of any Chinese purchase to ruin Egypt-China relations...
If egypt will do that, they either are afraid of economic sanctions and US's threats, and trying to lower their heads until they get another chance, or they're infiltrated in some positions in the army, which lobbies for western countries.
 

mshrief303

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Never forget that most important things that will seal the deal for Egypt is 1) the joint drills with china in 2025, which they saw the KJ-500 & J-10C together at work 2) J-10C downing rafale fighters in Pak-India clashes/war, which will affect & reduce any effect in any westoids in the army.

Seeing how the J-10C operates, its cockpit, munitions - most likely china's team took some with them - and comparing it to their F-16s will be a huge win for J-10C. And even more comparing KJ-500 with their E2-D AEW&C aircraft and we know the aircraft flaw close to Israel which can be used to elaborate & show its capabilities for Egyptians in their own operation environment.

Also, keep in mind that their 200+ fleet of F-16s, means they've a very big portion of their pilots that flew old fighters that offer them no capabilities in any war and will be slaughtered, therefore they'll pressure to get better fighters for themselves, which can move the needle even more. Yes fighter pilots are a small group in the military as a whole but they're very respected & valued, especially for historic events & lessons -- nevertheless Egypt have a historic shortages in fighter pilots.

The only hurdle in the deal is Egypt's general economics & their ability to finance the deal while keeping their economy in a good shape despite US's actions, if they can do it or do it with some losses, they'll surely do it. Nevertheless, it'll be in secret and can take some time even if they can't afford to wait.


Guys… No Egypt / US politics
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to move the discussion there, would be easier if you gave 3/5 minutes if you gave me a warning and gave me 3/5 minutes to move the talk before deleting it, thanks in advance.
 
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to move the discussion there, would be easier if you gave 3/5 minutes to move the talk before deleting it, thanks in advance.

Frankly, no, only if I would be paid here, then I would like to move incorrectly posted contributions.

But I simply have no time and even less desire to move every off-topic post, just because some cannot or do not want to stick to the rules and topics.

I simply delete ... in the hope that you learn to think before instead of just posting and complaining afterwards.
 

mshrief303

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Frankly, no, only if I would be paid here, then I would like to move incorrectly posted contributions.

But I simply have no time and even less desire to move every off-topic post, just because some cannot or do not want to stick to the rules and topics.

I simply delete ... in the hope that you learn to think before instead of just posting and complaining afterwards.
I'm so sorry that is not what I meant to write, I meant to write "if you gave me 3/5 minutes...", I know that you're not paid & that it takes a lot of time & effort to keep doing it almost in daily basis.

After reading this you can delete it too.
 
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