2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

crazyinsane105

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RottenPanzer said:
It seems there was a backroom deal between Iran and Pakistan with Pakistan giving a nominal assistance in aiding the recovery of Iranian Air Defense systems.

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Beyond this defense analyst who’s going out on a limb and stating this, there’s no evidence that Pakistan did anything to help Iran. He’s just making an assumption that Pakistan helped…and not realizing Iranian engineers may have brought parts of the AD system back up and running
 
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tankphobia

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zyklon said:
That sounds pretty implausible. The Israelis do not need Indian help whatsoever to operate in Iran, so there's no benefit and only risk in exposing such an operation to RAW.

If Iranian counterintelligence recently detained some Indians, they were most likely working for the Israelis directly.



Are there any credible videos of these reported Indian saboteurs in Iranian custody?
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Tbh if all the post didn't come from Pakistani accounts and voiced by AI it would be more credible.
 
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xyz4321 said:
Morale of the story goes: if morale is in the gutter, you'll lose all the battles,
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935770972046393423
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935610981725475007
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935867108925333657


Israel has to maintain the image of invincibility, invulnerable (even if false). They already lost that with Irani missiles causing massive damage in Tel Aviv. Tried hard to win the info war with false narratives but social media destroyed MSM (who's still reporting Israel as invincible). Once this image is destroyed, it emboldens all potential enemies. Thus, to counterbalance this loss, Israel will not end this conflict without actually showing that the damage in Iran is far worse and irreparable. They'll now use any tactic to get US involved and shatter the concept of Iran. Given Israel's history, I don't see this ending soon.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935790927433392356

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935820294045786445

Damn, even I didn't realize it is this big. The Mercator map must be a conspiracy,
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935792318415814841

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935710049068036370


As you can see, this now the 2nd time in this conflict that Israel has brought Pakistan into the equation,

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In another video I posted earlier, this car wreck is shown as a result of an interceptor making a U-turn into the ground.
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Who's the mentioned allies?
 
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crazyinsane105 said:
Dude makes some outrageous claims that need to be taken with a heavy dose of salt. One third damaged Tel Aviv would be popping up all over social media. Even the impact of a few missiles are up and live within seconds on X.
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The damage to Israel has been massive and bigger that what is shown in the MSM. The Israelis has been censoring the hits, specially military and government targets but the accuracy of the Iranian missiles was better than most Western analysts thought. They have hit SAMs sites, that missile in the video was no a random mistake.
 
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Observer1

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A question for the more knowledgeable members: Given we have seen an interception rate of about 90% achieved at times, would you say Iran's missiles are poor in quality, or pin it more on the fact that Israeli airspace is one of the most well guarded on the planet? Or perhaps a mix of both?

As it stands Iranian re-entry vehicles have some decent MaRVs to dodge, some of them (albeit not a lot), also had very high speeds. So how do you rate Iranian missiles, and do you think Chinese missiles (MRBM) in their place would have seen better success?
 
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xyz4321 said:
More and more reports like these are emerging,
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935699519884103799

Modi did meet Netanyahu in Cyprus just two days after the Pahalgam incident, and again recently just before this Iran conflict.

Wild guess on Indian strategy,

India, with it's own superpower ambitions, knew Russia is getting left behind a bit, feared the rise of China, ditched Russia to join the NATO-Israel nexus.

This nexus required India to pass some tests as initiation into the club. 1. An attack on Pakistan to weaken it, and show NATO that India can hinder Chinese interests in the region, prevent Pakistan from supporting Iran in anyway, as well as bring Pakistan's nukes back into the spotlight (for removal); and 2. Ditch previous agreements with Iran and instead use those developments for espionage and sabotage operations for the benefit of Israel.

Messing up #1 angered NATO enough to shower Pakistan with praise, kick India out of G-7, and humiliate it on the international level in many ways. While #2 succeeded, or atleast initially as they all seem to be getting rounded up now by Iran.

I think the coming days will tell how much India succeeded, gauged by Western interactions with India (i.e. rewarded or punished?).

For those who followed the Afghan War and India's involvement, the Chabahar Port was supposed to be India's entry point into Afghanistan to train terrorists against Pakistan. India invested into Chabahar (Iran gave India a 10-year lease), invested in a rail connection from Chabahar to [I forgot], setting up a corridor to Afghanistan. But as NATO withdrew, to the dismay of India, and a historically anti-India Taliban formed the government, India's entire strategy (at the time) pretty much backfired. That is (my guess) when India decided to continue this project for the Israeli-NATO nexus - instead of targeting Pakistan, as initially planned, the corridor shifted towards anti-Iran operations. Hence, you got now Iran apprehending both Indians and Afghans who worked for Israel.
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Iran is like top 3 closest countries to India. They’ve turned down China for India in recent years. If India did this to them then India is genuinely so stupid. They already have few friends
 
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