2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

[gelgoog]

Exactly. This just shows the weakness of the current multipolar system. This way the US can just destabilize the BRICS one by one.

 

[Sardaukar20]

Israel is continuing their bombing campaign on Iran. Tabriz had been hit.

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[enroger]

I'd argue this different than the Russian-Ukraine war. Israel initiated the kinetic war, not Russia and Israel isn't nearly as important of a market to China as the EU. It's also a very bad look but for China to stand by and watch a BRICS member, BRI participate and strategic partner get attack and do nothing. It's one thing for China not to intervene militarily but its another to use its diplomatic and economic pressure on Israel and the USA. I don't think China particularly cares "that much" about its rare earth deal, especially since it was the US that called first.

I don't know how exactly China can help at this point, at maximum maybe sanction/embargo Israel. Clearly Israel has it in for Iran they'll not stop for anything trivial

 

[siegecrossbow]

I'd argue this different than the Russian-Ukraine war. Israel initiated the kinetic war, not Russia and Israel isn't nearly as important of a market to China as the EU. It's also a very bad look but for China to stand by and watch a BRICS member, BRI participate and strategic partner get attack and do nothing. It's one thing for China not to intervene militarily but its another to use its diplomatic and economic pressure on Israel and the USA. I don't think China particularly cares "that much" about its rare earth deal, especially since it was the US that called first.

Don’t get me wrong, even if Iran gets Syria treatment and turns full cuck it doesn’t matter much in the grand scheme of things. Israel’s operation is tactically brilliant, just like the Ukrainian attack of Russian strategic bombers, but the long term reality is that they will both lose strategically without the backing from a strong United States.

 

[Randomuser]

Honestly if China had to aid Iran, the time was way back then. Now its already sort of too late outside direct military intervention. And after witnessing Syria even if you intervened 10 years ago like Russia did, if the boat has huge holes without any real solution to address the root cause, you're just throwing money to delay the inevitable.

 

[Nevermore]

Iran is not qualified to be one pole in a multipolar world. I think Iran's complete failure at least serves as a reminder to the world that indulging in Western narratives will only lead to destruction in the end. In this world of the law of the jungle, the only way is to give up illusions and prepare for battle.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Don’t get me wrong, even if Iran gets Syria treatment and turns full cuck it doesn’t matter much in the grand scheme of things. Israel’s operation is tactically brilliant, just like the Ukrainian attack of Russian strategic bombers, but the long term reality is that they will both lose strategically without the backing from a strong United States.

I can't agree with this. If the war freezes today Ukraine has lost. Their attack on Russian bases in Siberia does not reverse Russian occupation of Ukrainian territory. You have to expect some punch back when doing a border war against an opponent that speaks your language.

Iran isn't getting a little punch back. They've done almost nothing of substance for 3 years now. They have learned nothing in comparison. Yemen is doing more. Freaking Yemen.

 

[Almond98]

Lets say Iran falls and become complete puppet of america and Israel. What would be the next step for Israel? Will Arab countries stay united since they don't have common enemy? I think this could create problem for Israel and us in future.

 

[phrozenflame]

Is there actually a point to Iran doing all these raising flag of xxx colour wearing ring of xxx colour?

Its like Operation Sindhoor, theatrics that plays well for core domestic audience.

Imagine an enemy country literally building bases, in peace time no less, inside yours. Its like getting cannon rushed or proxy barracks in Starcraft.

And if you dont scout that within the 90-120 seconds, its gg. We are at minute 5, game is over.

 

[doggydogdo]

I'd argue this different than the Russian-Ukraine war. Israel initiated the kinetic war, not Russia and Israel isn't nearly as important of a market to China as the EU. It's also a very bad look but for China to stand by and watch a BRICS member, BRI participate and strategic partner get attack and do nothing. It's one thing for China not to intervene militarily but its another to use its diplomatic and economic pressure on Israel and the USA. I don't think China particularly cares "that much" about its rare earth deal, especially since it was the US that called first.

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China should realize that the west doesn't give a shit about diplomacy and calling for restraint is useless. China should do more to protect its interests and not allow a war in middle east to happen which is going to cut off a lot of Chinese oil and gas supplies