2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

siegecrossbow

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If Iran fail to retaliate in meaningful ways the very stability of the regime is at risk.

This is not exactly good for China, Iran right now is just a half cuck to the west, if the regime collapse they can turn into full on cocksleeve for the west
Some members here think that we are gloating about Iran getting pummeled. No we are not. We are just disappointed and saddened the same way a parent is after finding out that their kid got all Fs on their report card.
 

snake65

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I feel at this stage, if Iran could truly build nukes, then they should do it already and stop dilly-dallying around 60% enrichment, NPT, or fatwas. The demands by Israel and the West keeps changing. Then every once in awhile the Israelis and the Americans find some stupid excuse to hurt Iran. Giving up on the nuclear program will never bring peace as Israel and America wants nothing less than the destruction of Iran. Whether today, or somewhere down the road.
Destruction of Israel is official goal of Iran, so they are well matched. Americans, on the contrary, are not interested in destruction of Iran, they would rather prefer to drag it away from Russia and, to lesser extent, from China.
 

Xiongmao

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Destruction of Israel is official goal of Iran, so they are well matched. Americans, on the contrary, are not interested in destruction of Iran, they would rather prefer to drag it away from Russia and, to lesser extent, from China.
Semantics maybe, but Iran has always stated that it is the destruction of the Zionist regime governing Israel that it wants to destroy, not the State of Israel. Words matter when it is lives on the line.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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snake65

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Semantics maybe, but Iran has always stated that it is the destruction of the Zionist regime governing Israel that it wants to destroy, not the State of Israel. Words matter when it is lives on the line.
Semantics indeed.

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In4ser

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Are we though? As more information comes out it is becoming readily apparent that this is a decapitation strike at the highest levels. Probably how Indians thought Operation Sindhoor would turn out in their lurid fantasies. It’s not only a very bad look but there is reasonable proof that Iran no longer has effective anti-air…
I'd argue this different than the Russian-Ukraine war. Israel initiated the kinetic war, not Russia and Israel isn't nearly as important of a market to China as the EU. It's also a very bad look but for China to stand by and watch a BRICS member, BRI participate and strategic partner get attack and do nothing. It's one thing for China not to intervene militarily but its another to use its diplomatic and economic pressure on Israel and the USA. I don't think China particularly cares "that much" about its rare earth deal, especially since it was the US that called first.
 
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