Zhuhai Air Show 2018


kwaigonegin

Colonel
There are now at least two variants of the KLJ-7A AESA radar. As seen before, the latest variant comes with side arrays:




This (earlier?) version doesn't have side arrays, and the shape of the main array is slightly different:

Maybe this is the KLJ-7V2?

I agree with the side arrays it may be more optimized for stealth aircrafts. Don;t think it will go to the Thunder Blk III. That one is likely getting the 'regular' KJ7A which in itself is quite a decent radar
 

taxiya

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Maybe this is the KLJ-7V2?

I agree with the side arrays it may be more optimized for stealth aircrafts. Don;t think it will go to the Thunder Blk III. That one is likely getting the 'regular' KJ7A which in itself is quite a decent radar
It is KLJ-7A, see the black tag


The means two configurations of the same radar. Same means same TR module, same processing unit, like a modular design.
 

Bltizo

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A lot of these HD photographs come from this Russian photographer's blog (Marina Lystseva):
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Her photographs are very nice and always in top-notch quality. She deserve some credit here, I think.
Have any of her photos been posted on SDF?

looking at most of the photos here (thanks to by78), they are mostly from Chinese photographers which we can see with their watermarks or weibo tags.

That said her site does of course have nice photos
 

Bokimon

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I was just at the airshow for the public day and I think it was disappointing. The ground displays and pavilions were great but they reused ye jf17 and a diamond twin star for air acts. Most of the trade show acts did not fly even so there were many quiet time between acts.
The j20 was the highlight but the stifling humidity and serious backlit issues were negative in experiencing this superb fighter at its best. Not to mention mainlanders constantly blocking my views, shoving and even getting in front of my legs as I shot?
And I could not get to the otherside as there were road blocks preventing any access. I don't know how the other guys did it, the views from the hill platform on that side is superb!!
I sadly will not return to this Airshow considering I went 15000km around the globe for this ripoff. The trade show tickets were nearly$250 it is insane but was probably necessary to get the air acts like the fantastic Picts posted earlier. It is more expensive than Farnborough or maks.
So my attempt as a Westerner to check out this show, it was the trade show that was the first winner, the static though good was limited, no next gen fighters or guest Nations Airforce.
 

siegecrossbow

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I was just at the airshow for the public day and I think it was disappointing. The ground displays and pavilions were great but they reused ye jf17 and a diamond twin star for air acts. Most of the trade show acts did not fly even so there were many quiet time between acts.
The j20 was the highlight but the stifling humidity and serious backlit issues were negative in experiencing this superb fighter at its best. Not to mention mainlanders constantly blocking my views, shoving and even getting in front of my legs as I shot?
And I could not get to the otherside as there were road blocks preventing any access. I don't know how the other guys did it, the views from the hill platform on that side is superb!!
I sadly will not return to this Airshow considering I went 15000km around the globe for this ripoff. The trade show tickets were nearly$250 it is insane but was probably necessary to get the air acts like the fantastic Picts posted earlier. It is more expensive than Farnborough or maks.
So my attempt as a Westerner to check out this show, it was the trade show that was the first winner, the static though good was limited, no next gen fighters or guest Nations Airforce.
Sorry to hear that you didn't have a good experience there.
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
I was just at the airshow for the public day and I think it was disappointing. The ground displays and pavilions were great but they reused ye jf17 and a diamond twin star for air acts. Most of the trade show acts did not fly even so there were many quiet time between acts.
The j20 was the highlight but the stifling humidity and serious backlit issues were negative in experiencing this superb fighter at its best. Not to mention mainlanders constantly blocking my views, shoving and even getting in front of my legs as I shot?
And I could not get to the otherside as there were road blocks preventing any access. I don't know how the other guys did it, the views from the hill platform on that side is superb!!
I sadly will not return to this Airshow considering I went 15000km around the globe for this ripoff. The trade show tickets were nearly$250 it is insane but was probably necessary to get the air acts like the fantastic Picts posted earlier. It is more expensive than Farnborough or maks.
So my attempt as a Westerner to check out this show, it was the trade show that was the first winner, the static though good was limited, no next gen fighters or guest Nations Airforce.
Yeah, the Zhuhai "Airshow" has become less of an airshow and more of a trade expo in recent years, with any performances solely dedicated to furthering exports and deals.
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
We're all eagerly awaiting new 4K video uploads from the Japanese YouTube channel Tonkatsu298, known for high-quality, close-up, camera-tracked videos of airshow performances. Rumor has it that he has a sizeable collection of 4K J-20 videos.
 

Inst

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Looks like I lost on the WS-15 bet.

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China’s new J-20 stealth fighter engine a no-show at Zhuhai air show after it fails reliability tests

  • Country’s leading aviation expo was expected to be showcase for purpose-built WS-15 Emei but performance problems force rethink
  • PLA relies on Russia for engines for its most advanced stealth fighter

PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 07 November, 2018, 9:01pm
UPDATED : Thursday, 08 November, 2018, 12:42pm

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6 Nov 2018
A purpose-built engine for China’s new generation stealth fighter jet has not gone on display as planned at China’s biggest air show after it failed reliability tests, according to military insiders.

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It was widely expected that the performance of the WS-15 Emei engine for the J-20 fighter, known as the Powerful Dragon, would be one of the highlights of the six-day air show in Zhuhai in the southern province of Guangdong, but there was no sign of it when the show opened on Tuesday.

“The performance of the engine is still very unstable, and engineers have failed to find the key reason for the problems, even though its vector power is good enough now,” a military insider said.

Insiders said the WS-15 engine, which has been in development for several years, failed to meet overall reliability targets in long-standing trial runs over the course of hundreds of hours.

The South China Morning Post reported in September that the WS-15, which has single crystal turbine blades, was expected to be ready for mass production by the end of the year ahead of the opening of fourth production line for the Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, the maker of the J-20.

Three J-20s that did appear for a six-minute display at the opening of the air show were still equipped with Russian AL-31 Saturn engines.

One Beijing-based military source said this “indicated the scheduled mass production plan is likely to be affected, even though it’s a matter of urgency for the People’s Liberation Army Air Force to have as many J-20s as possible”.

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The Zhuhai air show is a key platform for the Chinese military to show off its most advanced weapons, an event seen as a way of boosting the PLA’s morale and promoting patriotism in China.

“Now it’s very embarrassing because China now may need to ask for help from the Russians,” the insider said.

“China has friendly relations with Russia right now, but what would Beijing do if the two countries fell out, or if Moscow was at war with another country?







“All these uncertainties affect the production of AL-31 engines, and therefore the mass production plan for the J-20.”

China rushed the J-20 into service ahead of schedule last year in response to the news that America had started deploying its F-35 stealth fighters in the Asia-Pacific and that South Korea was due to take delivery of 40 of the aircraft this year.

Initially the J-20s were fitted with WS-10B engines, which had been designed for earlier generation J-10 and J-11 fighters.

However, this was a stopgap and the PLA started importing the Russian engines because they were better suited to the J-20’s needs.

Despite of the failure of the WS-15, a modified version of the J-10B powered by WS-10B engines, was on display at Zhuhai, stealing the limelight from the J-20 and impressing some of the military experts present with its superfast manoeuvrability.

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Beijing-based military expert Zhou Chenming said: “The J-10 is finally able to show its real fighting capability after being equipped with the new engines.”

Zhou also said the new engine would help its manufacturer, Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, to sell the fighter jets overseas.







But although models of the J-20 were on display at the air show, it is not expected that China will be exporting the new generation fighter just yet.

“The J-20 is China’s most advanced stealth fighter jet so far. No other the country would sell its most advanced technology to the outside world,” Beijing-based military expert Li Jie said.




This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as: setback for misfiring jet engine
 

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