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siegecrossbow

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The SADGEST thing is that it isn't a very unique look for a completely new class of ships.
Kirov Class has a very distinctive look for example.
This is like a super sized- burke.

What is the point of those puny 127mm guns? Give it 2 turrets to hold 3 rail guns each. Come on, Trump. You don't even impress the 7 year old me.

How are you gonna power them?
 

AndrewS

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I'm honestly not convinced by the idea that this ship will be completely taken out by a single hypersonic missile, unless its a ballistic or aeroballistic one. Their warheads are pretty small, they tend to slow down on their final trajectories, and their kinetic damage can be mitigated through several structural elements like bulkheads. Many here are assuming that these things will be sailed in range of hypersonic missiles from the mainland. Who said that ? To me, it makes obvious sense to expand attrittable assets in the first few exchanges before deplying the "big guns". The biggest threat to this ship will be in the middle of the ocean from another vessel or a small island base, where it will be able to fire back and intercept incoming missiles. It is also unknown whether these ships are even intended to face off against mainland China in the first place. They could be used to hammer smaller nations in the americas, Europe and the middle east whilst tanking things like drones (air and sea) and slower cruise missiles.

Also this not completely related, but with regards to the postponement of the FA/XX, could it be that the US realized that with how expensive their sixth gens are becoming, spamming missiles might be cheaper ? That could explain why they're switching to building 25 behemths and designating them as capital ships. I don't know, I'd like to know what the more knowledgeable members here think of this.

The Hypersonic missiles cost $41 Million and each Trump Battleship only carries 12.
I highly doubt those missiles can be spammed, and that it would be cheaper than a naval FA-XX programme

Also, when this Battleship ($10-15 Billion) costs as much as a Ford-class aircraft carrier, you can justify a lot of ASBMs against such a target
 

AndrewS

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And thinking about the $10-15 Billion estimated cost of this Battleship.

If I extrapolate from the Type-055, my guess is that a Chinese-equivalent would cost between $2-3 Billion.
 

Overbom

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And thinking about the $10-15 Billion estimated cost of this Battleship.

If I extrapolate from the Type-055, my guess is that a Chinese-equivalent would cost between $2-3 Billion.
I thought Type 055 cost is only about $1 billion from what I remember. So that would be at least 10 Type 055 for each golden battleship

Anyone else got updated cost figures?
 

leonzzzz

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TBH I wanna LMAO whenever any rational thoughts are being put into this ship. The whole thing is such a 3 year old drawing on chalkboard with assistance by the retarded parents (The USN).

It's like watching serious academics debating the worth of a piece of feces that's stuck forever in Trump's digestive system.
 

CMP

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TBH I wanna LMAO whenever any rational thoughts are being put into this ship. The whole thing is such a 3 year old drawing on chalkboard with assistance by the retarded parents (The USN).

It's like watching serious academics debating the worth of a piece of feces that's stuck forever in Trump's digestive system.
I don't think you understood how serious this ship is. It is the design that will end PLAN and return us to an era of gunboat diplomacy along the coast of the mainland. The Chinese century is over before it even truly began. Straight back to another century of humiliation.
 

Gloire_bb

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Surely the logical consequence of recent decisions is that Burke's future is even more secure than it was before. With both Constellation and DDG(X) cancelled, USN is going to want something to occupy the chasm between the ~5k tonne FF-NSC and this ~35k tonne "battleship". Unless there's another new clean-sheet project in the works, that something is going to be a Burke.

To paraphrase George Orwell, if you want a vision of the future, imagine Burkes sailing the high seas -- forever.
It is, that's for sure.
But they aren't answer by themselves anymore. Especially non-fl.III ones
 
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