Ukrainian War Developments

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escobar

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I think they can shoot down a few drones without triggering war with NATO. If NATO doesn’t take the hint and back down, I think Putin will shake his nuclear stick again.

If NATO still doesn’t back down, that’s when things gets really hairy.
Some drone? maybe maybe.
The thing is no one is scared about Putin nuclear stick unless he is ready to used it, but he is not ready to use it. He prefer to be humiliated and alive than to be dead with Biden. Why US should back down? They are having so much fun with this war : weakening RU military without paying any price themselves.
 

plawolf

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Now i guess all eyes are in those Sevastopol live cams. Assuming they managed to tow her, it will take like maybe 1-2 days for trip assuming 5-10 knot speed. if possible.
I find it hard to believe the crew would have abandoned ship if the damage wasn’t catastrophic.

Would they really want to tow a destroyed burnt out hulk to port for the world to gawp and laugh at?

I think there is a fair chance they will scuttle her even if she stays afloat just to save themselves that embarrassment and cover it up with some BS excuse like determining the remaining missiles and ammunition onboard were at risk of detonating at any time so not safe to tow back to port.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
The thing is no one is scared about Putin nuclear stick unless he is ready to used it, but he is not ready to use it. He prefer to be humiliated and alive than to be dead with Biden. Why US should back down? They are having so much fun with this war.

Who said Putin needs to use his nukes on NATO?

Finland and Sweden just offered themselves up as choice targets. If Putin nuked a remote Finish military base, would NATO be prepared to commit mass suicide to go nuclear against Russia over it?
 

enroger

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If it was a P700 "magazine" that detonated, i have a feeling repairing her may be wishful thinking

Russian sources claimed missile compartment was untouched, don't know if they meant just the vls or both vls and P700 tubes....

If it is true then maybe the 130mm rounds cooked off? The bow is fucked?
 

Lethe

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"On @NPR this morning, the Polish Amb to the US articulated his govs maximalist position on Ukraine: there is no diplomatic solution, and Russia's total defeat from all Ukraine (including occupied Donbas) is the goal"

The Polish Ambassador to the USA is surely aware that there is nothing preventing Warsaw from sending its armed forces to reinforce Ukraine in its glorious march to victory, right? Nothing apart from calculations of national interest and fear of the potential consequences, of course.
 
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