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sequ

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The CEO of TEI had an interview. He said the
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  • We expect the manned test flight of the TEI-TS1400 engine to begin next year. Certification will take 2 years. Entering mass production at the end of 2024.
  • As TEI, we are in a position to manufacture the engine of the MMU. We can do it in 12-13 years.
  • The war in Ukraine has not yet affected the factory producing engines in Turkey. But near. Depending on the progress of the war, it may or may not be a problem for us to buy an engine.

He also said:

- Some European companies are hooking our employees on the spot to disband the team.
- They offer abnormal prices, prices that are not available in world markets.
- PD-170 engine is at the integration stage in Bayraktar TB3.
- We made a more powerful engine than the engine in the ATAK helicopter. It reached 1400 horsepower. It passed the tests. We are testing the more powerful ones. Our nation will hear them soon.

Also some specs about the TS1400:

  • 1400 hp continuous power.
  • 1475 hp take off power.
  • 1600 hp single engine emergency power, one of the final steps of the civil engine certification process.
  • 400 hours of testing completed so far.
Compare these stats to the stats given by Prof. Aksit last year:


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IMO we can see an increase of 5 hp in take off, and 36 hp increase in emergency power.
 

sequ

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Interesting, two different engines on the Akinci? A test vehicle perhaps? And the Kizilelma is quite large:

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Gloire_bb

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Why do you think TB-2 type drones aren't able to be picked up by SAM radars?
Tactics(low altitude approach, probably using other drones as retranslators, catching unprotected non-emitting SAMs, using baits) and certain conditions(EW, ELINT help, SA superiority).
We already saw Russian "Forposts" (which from a radar perspective are basically 1990s IAI searchers) spotting/destroying multiple SAM sites as well. Even including active(deployed) ones - drone apparently managed to slip into the dead zone(overhead cone w/o radar coverage) when SAM unit maneuvered, and then surprise kaboom.
Both S-300(2) and Buks(1).
 
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The S-300 and Buk aren't well suited to engage drones. A lot of the S-300 systems for example have minimum altitude engagement floors. Those are mid or long range air defense systems. To defend against targets like 10-100km away or more.
Even if you could shoot down a drone with an S-300 system missile, I suspect the missile would cost way more than a TB-2.

Tor and Pantsir are more suitable for engaging drones but even they are kind of overkill. Just not cost effective.
 

Gloire_bb

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The S-300 and Buk aren't well suited to engage drones. A lot of the S-300 systems for example have minimum altitude engagement floors. Those are mid or long range air defense systems. To defend against targets like 10-100km away or more.
They're perfectly suited to engage drones(especially Buks, it's basically their bread&butter), and do it routinely. The war is just far more complex thing than just competition of range bubbles.
Even if you could shoot down a drone with an S-300 system missile, I suspect the missile would cost way more than a TB-2.
Not even close. TB2s' powerful EOTS alone is worth as much as a good missile. In the end you're comparing two drones - just one of them is a single-use, single mission kamikaze, and another one is intended for way more. Only some of the most expensive US AD missiles cost ~as much as TB2, but that's mainly about them being American. US MALE drones as more expensive still.

And that w/o mentioning that AD works on the premise of prevented damage, not just the pure cost to cost ratio.

Tor and Pantsir are more suitable for engaging drones but even they are kind of overkill. Just not cost effective.
? while Tor missiles are at least somewhat expensive(compared to Tunguska/Pantsir ones, not anything with a seeker), Pantsir ones are outright cheap(it's basically a guided shell with a huge powder charge behind).
 

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TUSAŞ Engine Industry AŞ, aspires to produce engines for the National Combat Aircraft

TUSAŞ Engine Industry AŞ (TEI) Chairman and General Manager Prof. Dr. Mahmut Faruk Akşit stated that they can build an engine with a power of 35000 pounds for the National Combat Aircraft (MMU).


Akşit told the AA correspondent that they could achieve the weight of the work required to make the MMU a 5th generation aircraft, the engineering part, with a setup they will do at TEI.

Expressing that the USA has Raptor aircraft, one of the best warplanes in the world, Akşit said, "The USA does not sell these aircraft to anyone. We have reached the level that can give the thrust of the Raptor's engine. We are confident that we can build an engine of 35 thousand pounds for the National Combat Aircraft. We are confident in ourselves. "

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Mahmut Akşit stated that they can produce the MMU engine by taking the technologies they have developed and benefited from for use in helicopter engines to the next level.


Explaining that the F-110 engines used in F-16 warplanes have a power of 29 thousand pounds, Aksit said:

"The 35 thousand pounds of power that the engine planned to be built for the MMU will produce means between 30 thousand and 40 thousand horsepower. Such a power will be obtained with a single engine that there will be two engines that produce this power in our National Combat Aircraft. Two 30 thousand to 40 thousand horsepower. "The engine, which produces between thousand horsepower, pushes you with a tremendous acceleration. The warplane needs to be aggressive. There is a need for such power. We know that we can do this in Turkey with the ATAK we have made in the last 7-8 years."


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I wonder if the CMC projects between TEI, Tubitak MAM and other universities have something to do with this?
 
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sequ

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Captured Ukrainian Aselsan radio's pose no risk for Turkiye and other users:

The Russian Army seized the ASELSAN radios used by the Ukrainian Army. So, can this lead to any vulnerability?

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According to the information we have obtained from various sources as SavunmaSanayiST; ASELSAN radios have a very advanced crypto system. In addition, since it is foreseen that such communication systems may fall into the hands of enemy elements, there are some measures other than crypto.


Again, thanks to a captured communication system, the aforementioned radio is banned in order to prevent enemy elements from infiltrating the radio network and all data pertaining to it are deleted. In other words, even if the seized radio is in working condition, it is burned and rendered dysfunctional in a way.

For this reason, the combat systems produced by ASELSAN, captured by various powers, do not pose any risk to the Turkish Armed Forces or other users.

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