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Dearsan's concept submarines. An interesting thing with both of them is they have advanced hull forms.

1- 33 meter mini sub. The displacement is not given but is probably around 200 tons.
Specs:
2 533 mm torpedos, 6 mines, 8 divers, 6-8 men crew, 1600 nm max range, 10 knots max sped, active and passive sonar, EO periscope, 150 m max depth


2- 19 meter special forces sub. Displacement 65 tons.
Specs: 8 divers, 2 men crew, 100 nm range, 8 knots top speed, 75 m max depth

Talking about export figures, the January export figures are in:

Defense and Aerospace Industry January 2022 exports: $306.811.000

"While Turkey's total exports grew by 17%, defense and aerospace exports grew by 84%. Like 5 times. The share of defense and aerospace in total exports increased from 1.1% to 1.7%. Prior to this, the highest January exports were made in 2019 with 175 million dollars. There has been a huge difference this year."

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BTW, Burkina Faso imported $66 million worth of defense goods last month alone, so I guess they got a batch of TB2's.

CasualObserver said:

I was just joking deino, relax Yeah, in that sense; I also don't believe Turkey is gonna be able to pull off such an engine in such a short time either.

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To be honest,their plan to make a new engine with Ukrainians is shaky ,I doubt Ukrainians are still capable pulling out such a project, working with brits would be promising if possible

CasualObserver said:

I meant de appreciation of the currency and trying to attract more foreign trade with the weakening currency in the expense of prosperity of the people. I'm not kidding, the country is literally in a similar situation as 30s Germany (well, kinda) and it has crushed the people's welfare enormously.

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They did de appreciated CNY in 90s ,but not that much , and in fact, that wasn’t a good time in China, that’s “ you get your kids stolen on broad daylight” time

Philister said:

To be honest,their plan to make a new engine with Ukrainians is shaky ,I doubt Ukrainians are still capable pulling out such a project, working with brits would be promising if possible

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With the right amount of investing, they can. They've designed and sold various new engines since the fall of the soviet union.

The AI-9500F is a good example of a preliminary design ready to be further developed into a fully usable product if there is a customer willing to invest. They've offered this engine to AFAIK India, China and perhaps even Pakistan. It would be a better alternative than the F404 for India as it comes with much less political strings and more ToT as India would be paying for the completion of the engine.

But the only Turkish engine company that is known to be working with Ukraine on turbine engines is currently TRmotor. There is still TEI and Kale and I wonder with whom they are going to team up with to bid for the 2nd phase of the engine development project. As was said, all of them are eventually going to be involved in the 2nd phase and there is no winner takes all.

Erdogan is meeting Zelensky today. Lots of agreements are on the table including defense and space. Perhaps we'll hear more about engine projects.

Philister said:

They did de appreciated CNY in 90s ,but not that much , and in fact, that wasn’t a good time in China, that’s “ you get your kids stolen on broad daylight” time

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The economic picture painted by the member is very unrealistic and cynical. Besides the stark economic differences between Turkiye today and China in the 90's, the social-cultural fabric of both countries differ so much that such horrific things have a very low chance of happening on a scale as was seen in China.

But we are going OT here.

Philister said:

To be honest,their plan to make a new engine with Ukrainians is shaky ,I doubt Ukrainians are still capable pulling out such a project, working with brits would be promising if possible

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Actually that's not THE plan, TRMotor & MotorSich are one of the contenders in the tender. You should read the article below;

sequ said:

The economic picture painted by the member is very unrealistic and cynical.

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No, I assure you, it's not. According to ENAG, the inflation over the last 12 months has risen 114.87%.


Half the population live off of minimum wage and are below the Hunger and Poverty Line. And not to mention the Middle Class has implicitly melted. I'm calling out to the members of the SDF. This is the dire situation that the Turkish population is in.

Don't worry @sequ , Turkey won't fall into disgrace by accepting the situation it's in. It's okay to accept the truth my friend.

Ignoring the truth won't help.

I mean, a man has to be blind to not to see the situation. Either that or you're not living in Turkey.

Anyway, let's agree to disagree.

Philister said:

To be honest,their plan to make a new engine with Ukrainians is shaky ,I doubt Ukrainians are still capable pulling out such a project, working with brits would be promising if possible

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You mean the EJ200? Well I'm pretty sure that it turned out that as the TF-X is an enormous beast like the J-20, F-22 and Su-57, that engine was not enough. I'm also sure that there were disputes over the IP of the engine that was to be developed based on the EJ200. I think they wen't over the disputes but the remaining problem is that the TF-X is a bigger plane than the AMCA or Kf-21.

CasualObserver said:

You mean the EJ200? Well I'm pretty sure that it turned out that as the TF-X is an enormous beast like the J-20, F-22 and Su-57, that engine was not enough. I'm also sure that there were disputes over the IP of the engine that was to be developed based on the EJ200. I think they wen't over the disputes but the remaining problem is that the TF-X is a bigger plane than the AMCA or Kf-21.

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I heard they are using F-110 as stopgap @sequ. Since it is confirmed to use 3D printed components the thrust to weight ratio could be competitive even with 4th generation propulsion technology.

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I heard they are using F-110 as stopgap @sequ. Since it is confirmed to use 3D printed components the thrust to weight ratio could be competitive even with 4th generation propulsion technology.

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Yes, that is true but we were talking about the past developments over the national engine debate.