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Are you sure it is how the MMU/TFX will look like?? Sorry, but the design in the first row - in fact more a caricature of a fighter than a design - has nothing to do with the second design shown ... IMO it is just a fancy PR-video, nothing more.

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Honestly, from past experience, most modelers, across all nationalities (computerized ones are the worst offenders), working for release to the general audience tend to be very loose with the actual concept/prototype appearance.
 

Deino

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Honestly, from past experience, most modelers, across all nationalities (computerized ones are the worst offenders), working for release to the general audience tend to be very loose with the actual concept/prototype appearance.


Exactly my point ... therefore I won't rate this as claimed as a "remarkably changed design. The vertical stabilizers have changed quite a lot", but simply a 3D-model that is as accurate to the real one like this FC-31 model from the Paris Airshow 2017 is to the real FC-31 or even J-35: Namely simply NOT!

Its main purpose is not to show any design features accurately but merely to show, the MMU/TFX is progressing.

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sequ

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Are you sure it is how the MMU/TFX will look like?? Sorry, but the design in the first row - in fact more a caricature of a fighter than a design - has nothing to do with the second design shown ... IMO it is just a fancy PR-video, nothing more.

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Or perhaps it is based on the same illustration used by the TurAF during its own TF-X presentation on the 30th of June last year:

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The changes compared to the earlier TF-X illustrations are that the current design has different vertical stabs, which are less canted and positioned on top of the engines and are larger at the top of the stabs and the most important difference is the weaponsbay which is now arranged in a tandem fashion like on the Su-57 as opposed to the earlier large middle weaponsbay design like on the F-22/J-20.

Either check your eyes or try to be less 'fest'...
 

sequ

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Havelsan delivers the Command and Control system for the 5th Reis class submarine:

 

taxiya

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Do you have the link to the web page of these pictures? English descriptions of these samples?
I heard that they used additive process (3D printing using ion beam) to create the supporting structure. Do you have more information on this?
These samples look too perfectly smooth to be additive produced. You should be able to see the patterns of the scanning on the surface. The edges can be polished, but the depressed region should have all the patterns.

The color of the last two samples are neither aluminium(siliverish) nor titanium (gray), but yellowish instead. Their ridges look too thin to be real, compared to both forged or additive produced parts that bears load. I have a feeling that they are not real parts for the aircraft, but rather demo pieces for illustration purpose like a mockup.
 

sequ

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Thanks for the link. Unfortunately the page does not reveal any technical details such as material and fabrication method.
Indeed. I find it strange too. It's mentioned in the article that the material number of each piece and the materials used were displayed in the stands.
 

taxiya

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But these parts do look more detailed than this mock up:

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Compared to this one:
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@taxiya
By mockup, do you mean the light bluish colored big piece behind the person?

The smaller silver piece on the floor behind the person looks like a scaled-down version of the real thing. By real I mean produced in the factory using the same production method.

The one at the bottom (also in your original post) is certainly not a real piece even though it is "detailed" (having more realistic ridges) but it is only half of a bulkhead. There is no reason to build one piece from production line, then cut it in half for demo purpose, especially if it is titanium (hard to cut) looking from the color.
 
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