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sequ

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“The TEI-TS1400 can be easily converted into a turboprop. Maybe we need to tweak the parameters of the power turbine a bit.

It is in the power class that can easily fly Hürkuş if our state wishes."
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"We are one of the 3-5 companies in the world with Blisk technology. We are one of the 2 companies in the world that can make the whole compressor monolithic by using the new generation inertia welding technology. We are one of 3-5 companies in the world in terms of additive manufacturing know-how. 45% of our TEI-TS1400 helicopter engine was made with additive manufacturing (3D printing). We are the first company in the world to use additive manufacturing (3D printing) on rotating blades."
 

Tirdent

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Interesting information from an insider at another forum:

Interesting perhaps, but also dead wrong. Just off the top of my head, MTU has *certainly* been joining its individual blisk stages into a compressor rotor assembly with inertial welding for a while, and I'm pretty sure others do as well. I just can't be bothered to check, since a single counterexample suffices to refute the claim.

"We are one of the 3-5 companies in the world with Blisk technology.

Nope. By my cursory count there are *at least* 9 in addition to TEI, and that's being generous (because it lumps some companies which are now merged but each developed the technology independently before) and again not necessarily exhaustive.

Just to put the credibility (or at least his non-TEI knowledge, to be charitable) of this insider into perspective for the record...
 

sequ

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Nurol Yörük made it to the "finals" in the tender in Japan

Negotiations continue with a number of countries that show interest in Turkish armored vehicles. The most notable of these countries is Japan.

Nurol Makina managed to be among the 5 companies that passed the first elimination with its Yörük 4x4 in the armored vehicle tender opened in Japan.

Yörük 4x4 appeared at DSEI Japan Fair, the first large-scale integrated defense event in Japan in 2019. Yörük 4x4, the first Turkish battleship exhibited in Japan, had arrived in the country after a 3-week sea voyage.

With its rising defense budget, Japan aims to seriously increase its capabilities in this field. The country is also important in terms of being the gateway to the Asia-Pacific market.

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Skywatcher

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35000 Pounds = 155.69 kN ... why not directly 170 or even 195 kN?? It sounds even more and surely with some magical IT-tool you could manage this easily?!

Oh well ... the Chinese needed decades to develop and field a reliable modern turbofan in the 140 kN-thrust range and you really think this could be done just within a few years!??

I promise you, you will be very, very disappointed and this is not a "starting a discussion", but just in the same way like you posting any claim the "stating of a fact"!
I doubt that the TFX engine will hit 155.7 kN (it'd be in excess of requirements for a fighter of a TFX's size if nothing else)
 

pmc

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But as for getting it to production ... modern Ukraine doesn't have a very inspiring record here.
It is not just Ukraine. which will sorted out in due course.
He does not even realize that Western EU will never allow Eastern EU to stand on its own feet. It will always pluck the best of them to work for them. Turkey is already losing alot to EU. and what are left are assembling low end stuff for EU. The more Turkey export to Eastern EU. the tougher is Western EU response. so you end up Russian made planes/helis whether flown by Russian or Azerbaijani fighting fires with greatest sorties generation.
so Far Turkey thrown out from F-35
froze out from French-Italian Anti-missile system
Cannot enter EU wide funding for new developments.
Canadian ban the export of UAV parts.
slow down in parts and engine exports that is slowing down T129 and make it uneconomical. how long factory can last with such low production volume.
 

siegecrossbow

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I'm going to reallow discussions on the grounds that said discussions will remain civil and there won't be personal attacks along the lines of "trolling accusations" or attacks against specific nationalities.
 

sequ

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I doubt that the TFX engine will hit 155.7 kN (it'd be in excess of requirements for a fighter of a TFX's size if nothing else)
The TF-X is the same size as the F-22 so it wouldn't surprise me if it ends up with 35000lbf thrust engines. These engines from the 90's (F119, EJ200, M88) have a TWR of around 9, so a 1750kg engine would produce around 35000lbs of thrust.

The initial images suggest a 3LP and 6HP compressor stages like the F119, so Turkey will probable try to emulate the F119 in size, weight and performance. But with the stated supercruise speed of Mach 1.4 it will probably have a larger bypass ratio than the F119.

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Turkey has mastered everything about modern turbofan production since 2017 and has started to develop single crystal turbine blades since 2015 with production ongoing of turbine blades capable of handling up to 1400 degrees C. For a TWR of 9-10, 1500 degrees C is
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is continuously working on:

"This is indeed an important achievement for our country. There was an issue which has been always said about the domestic and national production: 'Yes, you have a helicopter, but is the engine of this domestic?' Yes, TEI can produce it in a domestic way. Yes, there is an engine, but can the components inside the engine be produced domestic and national? Yes, we can now produce turbine blades as TÜBİTAK MAM, which is the most difficult component of our country's first domestic and national turboshaft engine. This technology is very critical and a very limited number of countries around the world have this technology. It's a very complex and difficult design, it's not easy to do. We've made it happen. Of course, this is not an ending process. Certainly, there's more to it. TÜBİTAK Materials Institute and TEI will now be able to produce nickel-based superalloys for these and similar applications starting from raw materials with the Aviation Engine Materials Development - Cevher Project which was signed yesterday."

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