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Temstar

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Blockade of that nature is an act of war, so by classic definition US and Venezuela is already at war.

The longer this carries on without US going all in on actual kinetic action the more I suspect there wasn't a proper plan for war with Venezuela. Perhaps Trump thought if he concentrated all those forces around Venezuela and intimidated them by blowing up some boats Maduro will quit, but Maduro is turning out to be determined enough to call Trump's bluff and tough it out. Trump might be indecisive at the moment.
 

MortyandRick

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Blockade of that nature is an act of war, so by classic definition US and Venezuela is already at war.

The longer this carries on without US going all in on actual kinetic action the more I suspect there wasn't a proper plan for war with Venezuela. Perhaps Trump thought if he concentrated all those forces around Venezuela and intimidated them by blowing up some boats Maduro will quit, but Maduro is turning out to be determined enough to call Trump's bluff and tough it out. Trump might be indecisive at the moment.
Or they calculated that it's cheaper to just blockade and wait out Maduro.

Venezuela already can't fly any planes so can't export gold, and now can't sell oil. So the US naturally feels that they can just wait out Maduro. Unless Maduro CNS export oil and gold through other neighbouring countries.

Too bad Maduro doesn't have drones that can attack the US ships, at least make the Americans work for it. Too bad China can't give Maduro drones or even better, arm the local groups to attack the US with long range drones like Yemen. Or just blow up a US shop or two and increase costs on the US.

Sadly no other country is calling for US resolution or sanctions on the US. So there is no cost for them to just wait it out, at least for now.
 

didklmyself

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Too bad Maduro doesn't have drones that can attack the US ships, at least make the Americans work for it. Too bad China can't give Maduro drones or even better, arm the local groups to attack the US with long range drones like Yemen. Or just blow up a US shop or two and increase costs on the US.

No, nope. Venezuela cannot afford to attack them if even if they had the capability. Dont worry, once they land the troops then its a fair game. China doesnt need to supply anything, DJI will handle that... Venezuelan geography is perfect for a protracted war even more than Vietnam or Afganistan.
 

didklmyself

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No, nope. Venezuela cannot afford to attack them if even if they had the capability. Dont worry, once they land the troops then its a fair game. China doesnt need to supply anything, DJI will handle that... Venezuelan geography is perfect for a protracted war even more than Vietnam or Afganistan.

If Americans fail in their adventure then they will end up creating a garrison state in mich more perfect location. Cuba was too close to be of much value, they are in sweet spot for entities interested in stacking up some Yankee bodies.
 

Topazchen

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If Americans fail in their adventure then they will end up creating a garrison state in mich more perfect location. Cuba was too close to be of much value, they are in sweet spot for entities interested in stacking up some Yankee bodies.
I have a feeling that if Venezuela can manage to inflict a 1000 American deaths (even if Maduro goes) it would virtually destroy the Trump presidency.

Another thing is that Americans and westerners in general are not psychologically prepared to see their troops being chased by FPVs and hate drops .
 

AlexYe

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Or they calculated that it's cheaper to just blockade and wait out Maduro.

Venezuela already can't fly any planes so can't export gold, and now can't sell oil. So the US naturally feels that they can just wait out Maduro. Unless Maduro CNS export oil and gold through other neighbouring countries.

Too bad Maduro doesn't have drones that can attack the US ships, at least make the Americans work for it. Too bad China can't give Maduro drones or even better, arm the local groups to attack the US with long range drones like Yemen. Or just blow up a US shop or two and increase costs on the US.

Sadly no other country is calling for US resolution or sanctions on the US. So there is no cost for them to just wait it out, at least for now.
Yeah venezeula cant do a 'pearl harbour' after oil embargo so its better to just wait out till internal pressure does something,
Trump 100% wants the oil fields, prob will set up some fake company via his many co-horts and buy it for himself.

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Like what land did venezeula 'stole from US'? is all of south america 'american' land now.
 

subotai1

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Yeah venezeula cant do a 'pearl harbour' after oil embargo so its better to just wait out till internal pressure does something,
Trump 100% wants the oil fields, prob will set up some fake company via his many co-horts and buy it for himself.

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Like what land did venezeula 'stole from US'? is all of south america 'american' land now.
It doesn't matter. Oil is a finite resource and the oil-backed Trump regime wants more of it. So these are all excuses to seize the world's largest oil reserves and the country on top of it.
 

fishrubber99

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Reuters article on how an oil blockade could impact China

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In summary, Venezuelan oil is 4% of China's total oil imports despite China being the main destination of 80-90% of Venezuela's oil exports. There is ample supply from Russia, Iran, and other parts of the Middle East to make up for the deficit, as well as from Canada and Colombia. The type of crude oil that Venezuela exports is also primarily used to produce bitumen which is used in road construction, and there is weak demand for that right now in China.
 
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