The War in the Ukraine

sheogorath

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Without a clear manufacturing date, could just be a pre 2014 missile. That said, is not like a power module would be hard to procure given its nature.

This hunt for chips is kind of dumb though, cruise missiles, unless infused with AI or something, aren't that advanced and it seems an excercise on cope and hope.
 

Temstar

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Something like that yes.
Aliexpress certainly is an e commerce site and I do see lots of Russians using it from the review comments I see under listings. Would be curious to know what's the average transit time is like from paying for order and receiving your package in Russia. I have noticed recently shipping from Aliexpress sellers to Australia is much quicker than before - I've received some of the stuff I purchased on 11/11 already this week.

Who knows An-124 could also be carrying 11/11 shopping.
 

BoraTas

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Russia deserves to lose this war. Look at this. Ignore the statement. Just look at the video, which is not unique.

These men are tired, cold and sleep deprived. They should have been resting behind the lines instead of holding the line. That rotation should have happened long ago. The fortification here is very weak. It wouldn't be effective against WW1 artillery. You can easily interpret gross institutional dysfunction from this footage. You could ignore it if it was the only such video. But there are many.

 
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sheogorath

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These men are tired, cold and sleep deprived. They should have been resting behind the lines instead of holding the line. That rotation should have happened long ago. The fortification here is very weak. It wouldn't be effective against WW1 artillery. You can easily interpret gross institutional dysfunction from this footage. You could ignore it if it was the only such video. But there are many.

You can find videos just as, if not more egregious, from all walks of life in this war.




Your video doesn't provide any context of where, when and why.
 

BoraTas

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You can find videos just as, if not more egregious, from all walks of life in this war.




Your video doesn't provide any context of where, when and why.
None are as egregious as the video I posted. None of them has 11 non-reacting men in a haphazardly dug pit. One has a bad fortification but the men are normal. The other has a flooded and abandoned fortification. The other is normal combat footage.
 

gelgoog

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Those guys in the pit are not Russian Army. Not with that equipment they are not. At best they might be Donbass militia.

Anyway, about those precious "US chips" from the 1990s, the Russians produce their own equivalents which they can use if they want to.
For example you have the NIIST 1867VC6F which is a clone of the TMS320C30. And you have the NIIST L1867VM2 which is a clone of the TMS320C25.

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They even have dual core and quad core versions of these. Of course since they are made for the state they are gold plated. A lot of these military grade chips are like that just so they cost more. The main advantage of using ceramic packaging is temperature resistance. But you do not need that kind of temperature resistance on most products and ceramics do worse in high vibration environments like inside missiles. When these suppliers do have plastic packaging these chips cost like 10-20x less.
 
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tankphobia

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technically those Polish MIGs are short range and smokey engine. they are not suitable for the size of Ukraine. this conflict really separated wheat from the chaff. Ruaf with minimum number of combat patrols relative to Ukraine area has made completely disappeared TB2. and gave second thoughts to other similar drones.

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Why are you so fixated on tb-2? There just isn't that many of them to give out and if you didn't notice, both sides have been losing an astronomical amount of equipment in this war.

There is no single silver bullet to modern warfare and different platforms would have their niche to fill. Heck we have seen small quad copters successfully drop anti tank grenades on main battle tanks and APCs aplenty, does that mean ka-52s are useless because they get shot down doing the same job? No, it's not that simple.

In fact a suicide Alibaba drone struck the black sea fleet headquarters earlier in the war and would've probably just been slightly smaller than a tb-2, small/mid size UAVs will have a role on the battlefield, IF they have the numbers.
 

reservior dogs

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China cannot stop Russia from using nukes, but China can very easily remove the need for Russia to resort to nukes.

China is not involved in the war in Ukraine in any meaningful way at present, China staying so uninvolved is a massive carrot to use to moderate NATO behaviour. On the flip side, China even hinting that it could become involved in Ukraine would be a titanic deterrence against NATO overreach.

But this whole Russian nuke line has always been a western propagandist invention with no root in reality because Russia throwing nukes around in Europe is all but certain to lead to global nuclear war and MAD for all humanity. So let’s stop wasting time and bandwidth on this please.
If the West does not send NATO units on a massive scale, the Russians would eventually win this thing. There is no need to use nukes even inside Ukraine. The accuracy of today's weapons has improved so much that for small unit engagement, it is better and cheaper to use non-nuclear means. All the various aid packages from the West prolongs the war, but ultimately it comes down to firepower and armor. The West must send sufficient quantities of it to make a difference. If we send them piecemeal to Ukraine, without air superiority, they will be chewed up and spit out. few tens of thousands of Polish troops and Western "volunteers" will just delay the inevitable.

If the U.S. starts to amass large number of armor divisions along the Ukrainian border, I would be concern of tactical nuclear usage by the Russians. In a conventional war, the Russians will not be able to take on the U.S. led NATO troops and will resort to tactical nuclear to stop these troops. After that it is up to the U.S. to escalate to a full on nuclear war. I am seeing some mission creep like in Vietnam war, but hopefully cooler heads prevail and the U. S. will not pick a direct fight with the Russians in Ukraine.

In this war, China is like the U.S. in WWII, Russia is like Germany and Ukraine and the West is like Russia in WWII. In this case, the Chinese stays neutral but aids Russia in non-military ways. If NATO pick a direct fight with Russia, the Chinese will provide direct military aid to Russia and with the huge Chinese manufacturing base and the various military products, there will be just enough military aid to grind down NATO in a very long stalemate. At the end of this, Europe will be in shambles and the U.S. will be eclipsed by the Chinese without a fight.
 
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