The War in the Ukraine

Stealthflanker

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As mentioned in a previous post, it seems the AGM-88 without proper guidance and target feed, is more effective at hitting civilians than their intended targets in the Russian Air Defense systems

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This is tragic. the missile must have been launched in Pre-determined target position in its memory and then something malfunctioned leading the crash of the missile.
 

sheogorath

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This is tragic. the missile must have been launched in Pre-determined target position in its memory and then something malfunctioned leading the crash of the missile.
I do wonder what was the intended target because Kramatorsk is at least 35km from the frontlines. Picked up an Ukranian AD?.


M777 hit with what seems to be a Krasnopol


Hard to tell what they are transporting, other than tanks. Likely T-80's by the position of the snorkels but who knows.


Drone drops a grenade on a truck, injuring the driver

 
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Abominable

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What evidence would you require? To this day the official Russian position is that the Moskva caught fire and sank in rough seas without being under attack, see RT:
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The closest you'd get to an official admission of attack would be from state affiliated press i.e Greyzone which states that TB-2 were involved in the sinking:
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I'd much rather this be the case then the flagship of the black sea fleet getting sunk by 2 subsonic cruise missiles alone while acting as the AD platform for the entire fleet.

Anyhow, not every country on earth has hundreds of AA/EW systems ready to counter UAVs, we'd already see them work quite effectively even in previous conflicts, they serve quite well as a mid-size UAV capable of performing anti-armor operations.
Greyzone isn't state affiliated, it's one of the few remaining western based media outlets that haven't been compromised by the globalists.

The Ukrainians have already admitted that all their original TB-2s were shot down in the first week in a leaked conversation.
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Bringing up Russian propaganda doesn't mean NATO propaganda is true. Most of us here have figured out Russia was caught with their pants down when the Moskva was sunk.
 

Temstar

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Ukraine on the night of 24th of November 2022

Ukraine is darker than the surrounding countries even before the way, but last night does seem particularly dark. Anyone got earlier photos to compare?
 

gelgoog

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Yes, and Russian reports are always true!?
With regards to the Moskva what I heard, that seems to make the most sense, was that there was a fire in an ammunition magazine and the sprinkler system did not work as it should have, so the fire spread out, and they had to bail on the ship. Now, what you could question is, how did a fire start in the ammunition magazine in the first place? Were they trying to fire a SAM, or something like that, at a drone and the thing misfired? It was well known that the Slava class cruiser has a crappy fire fighting system. They did a whole replacement on the one in the Marshall Ustinov, but the Moskva is like the least upgraded of all of the Slava class cruisers. When they sent the Varyag to the Mediterranean and wanted to sail with it to the Black Sea I was kind of expecting another major mishap. It is about as not upgraded as the Moskva. But the Turks did not allow it to go in and it since returned to its base in the Pacific.
 

Atomicfrog

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So whatever that's still lit must be stuff that's burning.
To have diesel electric locomotives would have been great to bring power a bit everywhere, but they use electric ones in Ukraine... That trick have been used before in Canada and probably elsewhere:

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They certainly have some generator providing power but anything that will glow will clearly draw Russian attention.
 

supersnoop

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Seems like there are a lot of videos of M777 getting knocked out the past couple weeks. Wonder how many are visually confirmed destroyed.
Everyone's love-to-hate Oryx says 8
Back in the Russian higher tempo times, the Russian MOD was claiming to knock out quite a few per week.
The total donated was about 100
 

sheogorath

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In that sense, there is a pic a of a destroyed Krab SPG. No mention of when and where
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I think this is like the third destroyed Krab we have seen; in contrast we have yet to see a Pzh2000 getting hit which could suggest a number of things, like their use is more tightly controlled to the point they are kept in areas less likely to be destroyed by a stray Lancet or Krasnopol or that they have become so unreliable that they spend more time away from the front being repaired than in actual use.
 
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