The War in the Ukraine

lucretius

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Strelkov again... looks like the Ukrainians have taken another bite out of northern Kherson.



"On the state of affairs on the Kherson front:
In the Berislav direction, the enemy continues to advance, wedging into our position. The advanced enemy units penetrated to the outskirts of the village of Belyaevka. The village of Shevchenkovka is under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The depth of the enemy breakthrough exceeded 7 kilometers from the starting position. In the Kherson direction, the enemy conducted reconnaissance in force last night in the direction of the village of Zeleny Gai with the forces of one company, supported by several tanks and infantry fighting vehicles.
The attack was probably of a restraining nature or the nature of reconnaissance in force. Under Davydov Ford, an attempt to break through the enemy also took place again."
 

Weaasel

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Allegedly, another Russian General piles in for the Lyman fiasco.
Daily reminder: Lyman is the first piece of territory that Russia has lost since the end of the end of WW2

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Lack of sufficient personnel numbers, inadequate intelligence gathering... All these occurrences are negligence due to extreme complacency... It is incredible the extent to which they are adopting an attitude of laxity instead of utmostly and ceaselessly maximizing their vigilance, when it is clear that the Ukrainians, hitherto on the backfoot on all fronts prior to the early September offensive in Kharkov, were clearly still not defeated and had definitely not given up the fight, and were/are continually being supplied by weapons from NATO...
 

Weaasel

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Allegedly, another Russian General piles in for the Lyman fiasco.
Daily reminder: Lyman is the first piece of territory that Russia has lost since the end of the end of WW2
Then take the gloves off and do strategic bombing and flatten any locations with a large concentration of the enemy. Do so before they greatly fortify themselves in Lyman. Take the risk and use strategic bombers short of using nuclear weapons. What are you waiting for? You used Tupolevs in Mariupol, doing so in Lyman which lacks heavily fortified and bunkered steel plants should be much easier...
 

lucretius

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Then take the gloves off and do strategic bombing and flatten any locations with a large concentration of the enemy. Do so before they greatly fortify themselves in Lyman. Take the risk and use strategic bombers short of using nuclear weapons. What are you waiting for? You used Tupolevs in Mariupol, doing so in Lyman which lacks heavily fortified and bunkered steel plants should be much easier...

Probably considered too risky. Russia did not deploy bombers to Mariupol until April, nearly a month after the city was enveloped and local Ukrainian air defence threat was removed.

Russia can't replace it's bomber fleet quickly, hence they are loathe to use it unless they can be sure loss risk is minimal.
 

Pmichael

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Then take the gloves off and do strategic bombing and flatten any locations with a large concentration of the enemy. Do so before they greatly fortify themselves in Lyman. Take the risk and use strategic bombers short of using nuclear weapons. What are you waiting for? You used Tupolevs in Mariupol, doing so in Lyman which lacks heavily fortified and bunkered steel plants should be much easier...
Russians should know that a destroyed urban environment rather helps the defending side than the attacking one - Russian history is full of such cases like Stalingrad or Grozny
It also shows the absolute lack of operative understanding mind set to get out negative spiral.
 

Minm

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What's the long term strategy here, because the amount of equipment they must be lossing is probably off the charts and might reach a point of diminishing returns as the west losses its possibities of replenishment. It might reach a point where inventories run so low, the AFU might start looking even more like Jihadis, running around in TOW-armed technicals and MRAPs than a standing army because that's the bulk of what the west can send.
They don't fight like jihadis, they're fighting like the PVA in Korea. Superior motivation and manpower against superior armour and firepower. We might want the Ukrainians to lose, but they're not fighting badly. You have to respect that
 

Weaasel

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Russians should know that a destroyed urban environment rather helps the defending side than the attacking one - Russian history is full of such cases like Stalingrad or Grozny
It also shows the absolute lack of operative understanding mind set to get out negative spiral.
There has not been a major urban battle fought against an enemy determined, well equipped enemy to fight since World War 2 that hasn't seen extensive destruction of buildings. The Russians themselves have participated in two locations of the arguably the two most ferocious urban battles since WW2, Mariupol and Grozny
 

Soldier30

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The strikes of Russian missiles on the positions of the Ukrainian army were filmed by one of the servicemen of Ukraine, the place where the Russian missile strike was carried out is not reported.


During the combat operation of the Russian Pantsir air defense system in Ukraine, one of the missiles flew right over the heads of the soldiers. Apparently the target for which the Pantsir air defense system worked fell too low.


The crew of a Ka-52 helicopter fired an Izdeliye-305E missile into a BMP-2 of the Ukrainian army. Russian 305E missile can be used at a distance of up to 14.5 kilometers

 
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