The War in the Ukraine

FADH1791

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It’s hilarious that Ukrainian government officials keep moving the goal post for a massive southern counteroffensive. First it would be in July. Then August now they say it “may” happen in the fall. I do think they will try an offensive because time is not on their side. This fall and winter will be very harsh for Ukraine. Plus western nations will demand more results for the weapons they kept supplying g to Ukraine. Not to mention the fact Russia May shit off gas to Europe completely this fall and winter. But as many military analyst have stated with what can the Ukrainians attacks with? The weapons they receive isn’t in large numbers to launch an offensive. Secondly they keep sending the western weapons to the Donbass where in short order they get destroyed. Also the million man army concept sounds good in paper but most of them are poorly trained conscripts.
They will try some attack but it will fail. Without any artillery or air cover such an attack is wasteful. Unless they try human wave tactics like the Iranians did in the Iran-Iraq war. But unlike the Iranians, Ukrainian society doesn’t have a culture that embraces martyrdom and fighting until the bitter end.
 

FriedButter

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Shoigu met the commanding officers of the ‘South’ and ‘Center’ troops, Army General Sergey Surovikin and Colonel General Alexander Lapin, as well as other senior commanding officers.

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With the huge bombardment in recent days and a “surprise visit” by the defense minister meeting with commanding officers. Alongside orders to ramp up their attacks and increase Russian actions in operational areas. It looks like we can expect the next major offensive to occur very soon.
 

Topazchen

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It’s hilarious that Ukrainian government officials keep moving the goal post for a massive southern counteroffensive. First it would be in July. Then August now they say it “may” happen in the fall. I do think they will try an offensive because time is not on their side. This fall and winter will be very harsh for Ukraine. Plus western nations will demand more results for the weapons they kept supplying g to Ukraine. Not to mention the fact Russia May shit off gas to Europe completely this fall and winter. But as many military analyst have stated with what can the Ukrainians attacks with? The weapons they receive isn’t in large numbers to launch an offensive. Secondly they keep sending the western weapons to the Donbass where in short order they get destroyed. Also the million man army concept sounds good in paper but most of them are poorly trained conscripts.
They will try some attack but it will fail. Without any artillery or air cover such an attack is wasteful. Unless they try human wave tactics like the Iranians did in the Iran-Iraq war. But unlike the Iranians, Ukrainian society doesn’t have a culture that embraces martyrdom and fighting until the bitter end.
"'You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time"

Never thought I'd quote Rumsfeld but he was right on this. Once it hits home a month or two from now, cooler heads will prevail in Kiev and the West.
 

FriedButter

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plawolf

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I wonder what happened here.
The intercept point is nearly correct but the timing was way off. Perhaps that Kalibr avoided interception by simply slowing down a bit after interceptor was launched?

So much of this energy.


On a more serious note, seems like the missile rangefinder was way off, but in a weird way, as an unexpectedly low RCS cruise missile target should make the SAM engage late as it might think the target is much further away than it is due to the small RCS, but here the SAM went way early.

Anyone have an info on whether Russian cruise missiles have jammers and/or penetration aids? Iskandar were revealed to release penetration aids early in the war, would be interesting to see if Russian cruise missiles also have some tricks up their sleeves.
 

externallisting

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Sadly, I don't see a lot of discussion of this, just the discussion generated by Western sniping that is disguised as "reporting." [i.e. Russia lost x number of tanks]. Russia has been increasing the speed of its advances over the past months, so that does not suggest catastrophic armoured losses on their part. And you're seeing Ukraine military driving around Donbass in civilian vehicles.
Nor will you. It's inconceivable to many Western/EU nations that they could have had already depleted their entire tank force within a month of an actual est. casualties. The UK I think is planning to have a mere 50 MBT's at some near point in the future. It's my personal belief this is why we constantly see these india-tier proclamations regarding "game-changers" being introduced in the conflict. I don't know how long it's going to take (unfortunate loss of life and productivity) til people wise up and realise something like the pzh-2000/m777etc and most recently HIMARS aren't some silver bullet that magically deletes Russians.
 

Yommie

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rebels combat in Donetsk oblast


It’s hilarious that Ukrainian government officials keep moving the goal post for a massive southern counteroffensive. First it would be in July. Then August now they say it “may” happen in the fall. I do think they will try an offensive because time is not on their side. This fall and winter will be very harsh for Ukraine. Plus western nations will demand more results for the weapons they kept supplying g to Ukraine. Not to mention the fact Russia May shit off gas to Europe completely this fall and winter. But as many military analyst have stated with what can the Ukrainians attacks with? The weapons they receive isn’t in large numbers to launch an offensive. Secondly they keep sending the western weapons to the Donbass where in short order they get destroyed. Also the million man army concept sounds good in paper but most of them are poorly trained conscripts.
They will try some attack but it will fail. Without any artillery or air cover such an attack is wasteful. Unless they try human wave tactics like the Iranians did in the Iran-Iraq war. But unlike the Iranians, Ukrainian society doesn’t have a culture that embraces martyrdom and fighting until the bitter end.

All the fuel and ammo depots in Nikolaiv are blown up. If they want to do a million men offensive on Kherson they have to walk by foot over 50 km of flat no man's land. It would be a slaughter for Russian air power. Russia has a bunch of Forpost-R armed drones in Crimea.
 
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