The War in the Ukraine

Soldier30

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The Airborne Forces repulse the attack of the sabotage group of Ukraine. Footage of the attack of the Ukrainian sabotage group on the Russian column of armored vehicles of the Airborne Forces in the Kremennaya area. As a result of the battle, a sabotage group of Ukrainian soldiers was destroyed by massive return fire.


Footage of a powerful strike by the Russian heavy flamethrower system TOS-1A Solntsepek in Ukraine. As reported, the blow was delivered to the fortified positions of the Ukrainian army in one of the villages.


Marker unmanned reconnaissance and strike vehicles will be sent to Ukraine. The Russian military robot "Marker" has its own firepower and an automatic control system, it is able to determine the exact coordinates of the enemy at a distance of up to 15 km and select targets. "Markers" are able to support the system of operation of tethered drones used to monitor the situation and have a visibility of tens of kilometers. Since 2021, the Wheeled Marker has been used to guard the Vostochny Cosmodrome, where it has already proven its effectiveness. How the robots will be used is still unknown.


Footage of the combat work of the Russian tanks T-90M "Breakthrough" in urban conditions in Ukraine. The tank is reportedly firing at the building where the Ukrainian servicemen are stationed. The T-90M "Proryv" tank is the newest combat vehicle used by the Russian army in Ukraine.


52-mm self-propelled howitzer 2S3 "Acacia" of the Ukrainian army, came under attack from the Russian kamikaze drone "Lancet". The installation was protected from above by a canopy from drones, but the operator was able to direct the drone under the protective canopy of the self-propelled guns.

 

Nill

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I doubt Taiwan would be happy with that, especially given unlike the Ukrainians they are actually paying for them.

I don't think the Americans are serious about giving Abrams. Leopards are much better suited to the Ukrainian needs.

They agreed to send them only to unlock the Germans and others releasing theirs, and they'll just stonewall the delivery with excuses like the recent one about them having to build M1s from scratch.
Depends how long the war goes on for if it goes on till next year then Abrams are guaranteed.
 

Gloire_bb

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There are convict mobiks in the Wagner group, as well as full-time professionals who know how to properly fight. According to Western sources anyway, but that does seem like a workable theory.

Wagner mobiks probe during the day and identify Ukrainian defenses, while Wagner "Spetsnaz" watches from above via drones. Then, on the second assault, Wagner's spetsnaz destroys the Ukrainian defenses that were identified. Finally Wagner Mobiks come and occupy the cleared positions once the fighting is done. Rinse and repeat with Ukrainian counter-attacks thrown into the mix.
as far as i understand, wagner isn't that differentiated.
I.e. there are obviously different sources (old professional core, new volunteers, convicts&penals) - but they're ultimately a private force, which acts per to contracts. If they lose a man, no matter where he comes from - they pay compensation (to the families).
Losses aren't free for them, thus while they suffer what infantry combat takes - it isn't in their interest to waste any more than that.
 

Gloire_bb

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The British Dorchester composite armour is even more advanced. It will be a pointless endevour if the Russians get their hands on a Challenger 2.
Hyped. Material science is the same for everyone(especially 2-3 decades old one), and the known protection levels of western tanks aren't exactly over the top.
More than that, when they first started appearing - they ended up being way lower than expected - not just by optimists, but even by specialists.
 

Nill

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Hyped. Material science is the same for everyone(especially 2-3 decades old one), and the known protection levels of western tanks aren't exactly over the top.
More than that, when they first started appearing - they ended up being way lower than expected - not just by optimists, but even by specialists.
I think the reality is the U.K does not want to have the bad optics of when a Russian ends up posing on a captured challenger II that has a 1940's iron cross on it.
 

lucretius

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Hyped. Material science is the same for everyone(especially 2-3 decades old one), and the known protection levels of western tanks aren't exactly over the top.
More than that, when they first started appearing - they ended up being way lower than expected - not just by optimists, but even by specialists.

Last time I checked the details were still classified. Warthunder is not a reliable source ;)
 

sheogorath

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Last time I checked the details were still classified. Warthunder is not a reliable source ;)

The test results of it against the M1 in international contests and the requirements that gave birth to the project aren't, though. The requirement asked for 500mm of equivalent RHA protection for KE rounds and 800mm for HE from the frontal arc. An increase of these requirements was considered in 1988 but it didn't pan out.

There is a reason why the TES add-on armor was so massive as it needed to cover a wide area of armor
 
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