The War in the Ukraine


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Overbom

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This reminds me that period a few months ago when the thread was full of updates of Russian forces advancing 1km here, 1km there.

Then in a single week/days Ukraine suddenly threw Russia out of Kherson and the whole thread was shocked by that "but how could that happen, Russia has been advancing/succeeding for so long bla bla"

Not to downplay Russia's recent advances, but the way I see it is them achieving the bare minimum given Russia's available military resources. Anyway, the real action will happen when Russia will begin their big offensive operation, that's when we can say if they are really succeeding or not
 
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SolarWarden

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Overbom said:
This reminds me that period a few months ago when the thread was full of updates of Russian forces advancing 1km here, 1km there.

Then in a single week/days Ukraine suddenly threw Russia out of Kherson and the whole thread was shocked by that "but how could that happen, Russia has been advancing/succeeding for so long bla bla"

Not to downplay Russia's recent advances, but the way I see it is them achieving the bare minimum given Russia's available military resources. Anyway, the real action will happen when Russia will begin their big offensive operation, that's when we can say if they are really succeeding or not
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We've been hearing of the coming Russian offensive for a while now. We've seen Ukraine's counter offensive taking Kharkiv Oblast/Lyman and Izium and Kherson. Lets see if Russia is even capable right now to launch such offensive.
 
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sheogorath

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SolarWarden said:
The scrutiny should be that it took a "superpower" 5-6 months to move almost 20kms to take a village/small town just over their border.
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Hmmmmm, I wonder

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HighGround said:
Don't know why this is an on-going discussion. Even if the Abrams is poorly suited for Ukraine.

Bad Tank > No Tank.
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Not always the case, not specific to tanks I mean. If a system takes up more resources to operate than its impact on the battlefield, it is bad
 
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pmc

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Patchwork_Chimera said:
For what it's worth, a mean of 150 sorties per day (presumably a flight day or a 24h cycle) is extremely anemic.
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you count effectiveness of sorties not the numbers. otherwise all those recent Mideast wars would have been settled decisively and faster.
atgms/rockets/machine guns can take much more individual targets per sortie. every thing is in eye sight for faster battlefield assessment of dealing with manpower numbers.
integrating drones with high precision weopons mean less need for medium altitude sorties. They are increasing range of Oniks to 1000km.

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"Orlan-30" is designed for aerial reconnaissance, search, detection and recognition of objects in the visible or infrared range. In addition, with the help of the installed target equipment, it provides target designation to high-precision weapons for the destruction of stationary and moving objects both during the day and at night.
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Anlsvrthng

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Looks like in Ulgedar the Russian Army is on the offensive.

Previously only the Wagner and the Doneck/Luhansk units was on offensive.


I think it is the start of the offensive.

Most likelly the tank talk is due to this.

And if they need more mobilisation in Russia then it is a proper invasion.
 
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HighGround said:
Don't know why this is an on-going discussion. Even if the Abrams is poorly suited for Ukraine.

Bad Tank > No Tank.
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Every new western equipment that the Ukrainians get people must find flaw in it somehow. Even t-55s would do the Ukranians good right now considering the disparity in reasources between the two nations.

But then again, what else is there to talk about? The front haven't really moved all that much since Kherson, weather is terrible for offensives and the thread is just pages of conscription video, NATO bashing and the occasional artillery/drone video, at least the tank discussion is technical.
 
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