The Q-5, J-7, J-8 and older PLAAF aircraft

delft

Brigadier
It will be interesting to see if the new JL-9G will evolve into a single seat combat aircraft to supplement the J-11s on the new carrier. These inexpensive little aircraft could see a market in the 3rd world as 2nd or 3rd tier aircraft in an air force. There are many nations that still operate the F-5E (in its many upgraded forms) and the MiG-21 (in its many upgraded forms) that would be interested in this craft.

The aircraft is inexpensive to purchase and operate and can provide additional numbers to supplement better types like the Su-27/30 and the MiG-29. If it retains any of the advantages of easy maintenance like the MiG-21 it should be welcomed by many cash strapped government seeking an aircraft that can perform a military function and also provide pilots with the required flying hours.

It the F-5 was still produced today there would be nations that would purchase it. The single seat version of the JL-9G could almost be considered an F-20 of the MiG-21.
I expect JL-9G will only be used on land bases ( or perhaps only one land base ) to train pilots in take off over a ski ramp and to make a trapped landing. This will have necessitated a major increase in structural strength but to enable the aircraft to be used aboard ship will need an even stronger and heavier structure. Beside I think a shipboard trainer should have two engines. ( I know, T-45 ).
 

Lion

Senior Member
Argentina shall wait for L-15 trainer/fighter. It will debut and enter service end of this year.
 

Miragedriver

Brigadier
I expect JL-9G will only be used on land bases ( or perhaps only one land base ) to train pilots in take off over a ski ramp and to make a trapped landing. This will have necessitated a major increase in structural strength but to enable the aircraft to be used aboard ship will need an even stronger and heavier structure. Beside I think a shipboard trainer should have two engines. ( I know, T-45 ).

Don`t forget the TA-4J
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
For my money the J-6 was the prettiest fighter built. Extremely graceful and still a good dogfighter.
Really?


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I just do not see it as either the prettiest, or that graceful...but that just me. To each his own.

I'm a child of the 1950s and loved the F-8 Crusader and the Mig-21 matchup through the 1960s. But for me, now getting later into my fifties, this is by far the prettiest and most graceful fighter ever built by man.


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But that's just me.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
For me I'm partial to the Rafale. It's very difficult to beat her just on looks. She's that 5' 2 petite brunette with just the right curves that looks amazing even in the morning. The YF-23 is pretty also but more like the 5' 11" blonde supermodel with makeup and millon$ hairdo.
As to older generation fighters I would say the P-51 is a beautiful airplane. I also like the DeHaviland Mosquito.
 

rhino123

Pencil Pusher
VIP Professional
I know it is OT here... but to me... I like the Mig-15 and the F-86 Sabre. Although these planes are totally obsolete in modern warfare... but I couldn't find any aircraft that is as graceful and beautiful as these two planes.
 

Miragedriver

Brigadier
Based on this simple mathematics (or accounting if you prefer), aircraft on the 5th, and all sorts of "4 + +" generations will lose to more simple and cheaper solutions, particularly in the markets of the Third World. Technical complexity and versatility will surely provide strategic advantage, but only in combination with a sufficient quantity. The latter will be impossible to reach due to the high price. Having invested heavily in a relatively small fleet of technically advanced aircraft, the air force of a small country is at risk of finding itself in this type of situation. The few assets that it has will be spread thin and air command will be less likely to authorize high risk missions in fear of loosing the few units the air force has.

This may open up the door to modernizing older 3rd generation aircraft. However I see, a crisis is in store for manned aviation against the backdrop of rising prices and increasing requirements for training of pilots. The number of countries that can afford modern piloted aircraft will inevitably decline. Sooner or later, this number will coincide with the number of countries-manufacturers. As a result, aviation producers will have to choose from either internal markets or a very narrow circle of several potential customers who will be able to afford to have and upgrade a fleet of "fourth" and "fifth" generation fighters.
 
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