The Main-Armament Level Of Warships Entering Service

Jura

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"The arsenal ship, which would provide fire support for ground forces, will be built using South Korean technology. The ship, which will likely be modeled on the locally produced KDX-II destroyer (4,000-5,000 tons), will be loaded with a large number of precision-guided weapons, including ship-to-ground missiles, for hitting ground targets. It’s expected to begin its mission in the late 2020s."

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Jura

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LOL what an elegance:


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Sep 30, 2017 I referred to her with "politically-correct warship" and "peaceship"

a part of Western naval revolution made by not arming warships
 
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France & Greece Working on G-to-G Agreement for Multi-Mission Frigates
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La France propose à la Grèce deux frégates FDI via une vente de type FMS à la française

24/09/2019
La France va proposer à la Grèce la vente de deux frégates de défense et d'intervention (FDI) par le biais d'un contrat de gouvernement à gouvernement. Une vente à l'image de celle réalisée avec la Belgique pour la vente de blindés (CaMo).

La France va prochainement proposer de façon officielle un accord de gouvernement à gouvernement de type CaMo (vente de blindés à la Belgique) pour la fourniture de deux frégates FTI ([email protected]) de plus de 4.000 tonnes armées de missiles de croisière MdCN (Scalp Naval) à la Grèce et identiques à celles de la Marine nationale. Toutefois, la marine grecque devrait demander (à la marge ?) des équipements spécifiques à la France pour ses frégates. Paris a déjà proposé officieusement à Athènes une vente de type FMS à la française, intitulé Contrat de partenariat gouvernemental (CPG), lors d'une visite de représentants de haut niveau du ministère des Armées français en septembre.

La future visite à Paris en octobre du ministre de la Défense grec Nikos Panagiotopoulos pourrait être le moment pour la ministre Florence Parly de lui faire officiellement cette offre. La France devra proposer un plan de financement attractif (garanties bancaires et crédit acheteur). En outre, les deux frégates seront fabriquées par Naval Group à Lorient si Athènes accepte la proposition française. En 2009, la Grèce avait donné son accord pour l'achat de six frégates Fremm mais la crise financière avait fait échouer l'opération. Et le ministère de la Défense grec n'était jamais revenu sur cette promesse, ignorant une proposition de Fincantieri.

Une première livraison en 2024

Idéalement, la première frégate grecque pourrait être livrée en 2024, coincée entre les livraisons des deux premières FTI françaises (2023 et 2025). La seconde pourrait être remise à la marine grecque fin 2025 ou en 2026 tandis que la dernière pour la Marine nationale en 2029.

Le programme FTI (frégates de taille intermédiaire), devenu FDI (frégates de défense et d'intervention), vise à acquérir cinq frégates (coût unitaire 750 millions d'euros), en complément des deux frégates de défense aérienne Horizon (FDA) et des huit FREMM, pour atteindre le format des 15 frégates de premier rang défini par le Livre blanc sur la défense et la sécurité nationale de 2013. La commande du développement et de la réalisation de la première FTI est intervenue en avril 2017 pour un montant d'environ deux milliards d'euros.
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"France will propose to Greece the sale of two frigates of defense and intervention (FDI) through a government-to-government contract. A sale in the image of the one made with Belgium for the sale of tanks (CaMo).

France will soon formally propose a CaMo government-to-government agreement (sale of armored vehicles to Belgium) for the supply of two FTI frigates (Belh @ rra) of more than 4,000 tons armed with MdCN cruise missiles (Scalp Naval) to Greece and identical to those of the Navy. However, the Greek navy should ask (at the margin?) Specific equipment to France for its frigates. Paris has unofficially proposed in Athens a French-style FMS sale, called the Government Partnership Contract (GPC), during a visit by high-level representatives of the French Ministry of the Armed Forces in September.

The upcoming visit to Paris in October by Greek Defense Minister Nikos Panagiotopoulos could be the moment for Minister Florence Parly to formally make this offer. France will have to propose an attractive financing plan (bank guarantees and buyer credit). In addition, the two frigates will be manufactured by Naval Group in Lorient if Athens accepts the French proposal. In 2009, Greece had agreed to purchase six Fremm frigates but the financial crisis had caused the operation to fail. And the Greek Ministry of Defense had never retracted this promise, ignoring a proposal by Fincantieri.
A first delivery in 2024

Ideally, the first Greek frigate could be delivered in 2024, wedged between the deliveries of the first two French FTIs (2023 and 2025). The second could be handed over to the Greek Navy at the end of 2025 or in 2026, while the latter for the French Navy in 2029.

The FTI (Frigate Intermediate) program, now FDI (frigate defense and intervention), aims to acquire five frigates (unit cost 750 million euros), in addition to the two frigates Air Defense Horizon (FDA) and of the eight FREMMs, to achieve the format of the 15 first frigates defined by the 2013 White Paper on Defense and National Security. The order for the development and realization of the first FTI took place in April 2017 for a total of about two billion euros."
 

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Project 17A Frigate
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relatively lightly armed with (32+8)/about 7

the square represents 1.0 k-displacing Project 21631 (so called Buyan-M with eight so called Kalibrs: if you want to nitpick or don't know what I talk about, please skip reading this); 8 tubes in total

the circle symbol represents 2.5 k-displacing Project 20385 (8 Kalibrs, 16 cells of so called Redut: again, don't nitpick!); 24 tubes in total

the upward-pointing triangle symbol represents 3.6 k-displacing Incheon-II (8 Korean AShMs, 16 cells Korean VLS); 24 tubes in total

the downward-pointing triangle symbol represents 4.0 k-displacing Project 11356 (8 Kalibrs, 24 cells of so called Shtil: again, don't nitpick!); 32 tubes in total

the diamond symbol represents 4.1 k-displacing Type 054A (32 cells VLS; 8xC-803); 40 tubes in total

the left-pointing triangle symbol represents 5.4 k-displacing Project 22350 (16 Kalibrs, 32 cells of Redut: don't start nitpicking here); 48 tubes in total

the right-pointing triangle symbol represents 5.5 k-displacing KDX-II (32 cells of Mk 41 VLS, 32 cells of Korean VLS, 8 Korean AShMs); 72 tubes in total

the hexagon symbol represents 7.5 k-displacing Type 052D (64 cells VLS); 64 tubes in total

the star symbols represents 11.0 k-displacing KDX-III (80 cells of Mk 41 VLS, 32 cells of Korean VLS, 16 Korean AShMs); 144 tubes in total

and finally, the pentagon (sorry! LOL) symbol represents 12 k-displacing Type 055 with 112 cells VLS, 112 tubes in total


as you can see below, these ships MORE OR LESS follow the trend of ten tubes per one thousand metric tons of full displacement; they're WARSHIPS
 

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"a 32-cell Mk.41 Vertical Launch System" inside
Naval warfare enhancement: Hobart & Hunter in the 2030s

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model of first
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Type 26 frigate HMAS Hunter (F101) on display at Naval Conference in Sydney
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Jura

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2023

the chart from #4
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at that time the Type 055 armament was unknown, so I used 128 tubes
later missed the Adm. Nakhimov related announcements:
  1. Russian nuclear-powered cruiser to return to fleet in 2022
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  2. she's to get a sort of ASROC called "Response" currently in development (
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plus here's a byproduct of yandex.ru search:
Модернизация ТАРКР «Адмирал Нахимов» стоит своих денег?
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armchair-admiralling the Nakhimov against three
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etc., kind of liked that
 

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"The arsenal ship, which would provide fire support for ground forces, will be built using South Korean technology. The ship, which will likely be modeled on the locally produced KDX-II destroyer (4,000-5,000 tons), will be loaded with a large number of precision-guided weapons, including ship-to-ground missiles, for hitting ground targets. It’s expected to begin its mission in the late 2020s."

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South Korean Military News, Reports, Data, etc. 3 minutes ago

고맙습니다

Did you check the tweets by Xavier Vavasseur? He posts here as Xavnn in the world armed forces section. Info on the KDX-II destroyer.

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KDDX model. Note the integrated mast. Image is too big to upload its linked to the original at imgur. The golf ball at the top reminds me of a proposed Thales integrated mast design where they placed the SATCOM at the top, with the previous design version having a Thales STIR.


From Reddit, r/WarshipPorn, u/mojave955.

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