Taiwan Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

tygyg1111

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Last time I checked the US provided most of Afghanistan's security for 20 years - longer than the Soviets - with thousands of US personnel killed and tens of thousands wounded. No one on this forum predicted the US staying so long.

China's military planning will almost certainly assume there will be a US response. The only question will be whether, in the event of an attack on Taiwan, the PLA attacks US bases first, or, to avoid a Pearl Harbour US political backlash, doesn't make a first strike and gives US forces time to respond.
Which suggests the US is unlikely to opt for another "quick and easy" operation, which would give them a similar level of casualties, in a much shorter period of time.

If China makes a move of it's own volition, it would be at a time when the balance of power means the US is unable and unwilling to do anything. Hell, even as of a few years ago US wargames conceded that a US intervention that close to China would be suicidal.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Last time I checked the US provided most of Afghanistan's security for 20 years - longer than the Soviets
That would be incorrect. The US has been Afghanistan's top security problem for the last 20 years as they terrorized Afghanistan day in and day out killing innocent civilians before deciding they can't afford to keep playing thier cruel game.
- with thousands of US personnel killed and tens of thousands wounded.
Poorly armed goat farmers aren't as soft as they thought, were they?
No one on this forum predicted the US staying so long.
At the start of the war, most people thought the US had the competence to finish it quickly. That was the goal. Being mired for 20 years then leaving it to the Taliban is far worse than what anyone could have thought at the beginning. This is an example of horrible American failure and incompetence for all to see and that would have been true even without considering the final moments.
China's military planning will almost certainly assume there will be a US response. The only question will be whether, in the event of an attack on Taiwan, the PLA attacks US bases first, or, to avoid a Pearl Harbour US political backlash, doesn't make a first strike and gives US forces time to respond.
China will not utilize any first strike against the US; that tactic is used by a nation that either feels that all out war is certain and/or that it cannot win otherwise. A China that can pick the moment of conflict (if there needs to be one) and is growing faster than any antagonistic (or friendly) militarily will wait until it is stong enough to make its strike and no one would dare intervene. By that time, strike may not be necessary. China's fast-growing nuclear arsenal also ties into this strategy.
And President Tsai has indicated that the chances of a UDI are zero, as she has stated Taiwan is already independent.
What a cowardly thing to do, hint you're "independent" without daring to directly declare it. All independent nations can proudly go to the UN and declare that they are independent. If a guy whispers, "I'm free to do whatever I want," only while looking left and right to make sure he's not heard by his master, do you believe he's free? LOL But anyway, that cowardice actually works better for us because...
So Taiwan is unlikely to "push the switch" to give Beijing an excuse to attack - the ball is in the CCP's court.
Sounds perfect; we'll pick a time convenient for us then.
 
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yungho

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Not really. Certainly polls from around five years ago showed lower numbers of Taiwanese willing to fight. If they were fake or responses not truthful they'd always have the same results.

Not that any poll result is binding, but it's at least as useful as the bluster one sees on military forums about how manly people are and how they'd go fight for Country X if needed (just don't ask them to sign up now). :)


Last time I checked the US provided most of Afghanistan's security for 20 years - longer than the Soviets - with thousands of US personnel killed and tens of thousands wounded. No one on this forum predicted the US staying so long.

China's military planning will almost certainly assume there will be a US response. The only question will be whether, in the event of an attack on Taiwan, the PLA attacks US bases first, or, to avoid a Pearl Harbour US political backlash, doesn't make a first strike and gives US forces time to respond.

And President Tsai has indicated that the chances of a UDI are zero, as she has stated Taiwan is already independent. So Taiwan is unlikely to "push the switch" to give Beijing an excuse to attack - the ball is in the CCP's court.
Is it though? If Taiwan is independent why hasn't Taiwan declared itself a sovereign nation and changed the name of the state from Republic of China to Taiwan? If Taiwan maintains the status quo, like you assume they will, why do you think Beijing has a problem with that? The fundamental issue is Tsai wants to 'push the switch' and erode the status quo.

Taiwan needs to erode the status quo because they know a diplomatic resolution is inevitable with the military in-balance rising. Beijing is more than happy with the status quo. The only one's who aren't are Taiwan and the US. It's the opposite of your last line, Taiwan and the US must act, while Beijing responds.

The longer it takes for the US to respond, the worse the situation will be for Taiwan in the event of an invasion. I don't see why the PLA would strike first provoking a US response when they are still in the middle of a Taiwan invasion and subsequent control. Maybe months after the invasion is complete, but at that point I would assume US assets are prepared for war and a PLA attack would be no surprise.
 
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emblem21

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Not really. Certainly polls from around five years ago showed lower numbers of Taiwanese willing to fight. If they were fake or responses not truthful they'd always have the same results.

Not that any poll result is binding, but it's at least as useful as the bluster one sees on military forums about how manly people are and how they'd go fight for Country X if needed (just don't ask them to sign up now). :)


Last time I checked the US provided most of Afghanistan's security for 20 years - longer than the Soviets - with thousands of US personnel killed and tens of thousands wounded. No one on this forum predicted the US staying so long.

China's military planning will almost certainly assume there will be a US response. The only question will be whether, in the event of an attack on Taiwan, the PLA attacks US bases first, or, to avoid a Pearl Harbour US political backlash, doesn't make a first strike and gives US forces time to respond.

And President Tsai has indicated that the chances of a UDI are zero, as she has stated Taiwan is already independent. So Taiwan is unlikely to "push the switch" to give Beijing an excuse to attack - the ball is in the CCP's court.
Yeah, 20 years of killing civilians and basically running away afterwards while bombing a family on the way out. Yeah real reliable there and also to note is that China has yet to act on Taiwan because unlike what you are hinting at, China has no need to act rashly when the future issues in Taiwan are getting increasingly dire with the electrical and water issues along with future opportunities shrinking to the point where the people of Taiwan are increasingly looking to the main land for work. Hence the ball isn’t in the CCPs court but that of Taiwan and if they think they can achieve independence without any real costs (of which Taiwan doesn’t have remotely enough to pay or suffer). President Tsai is failing more and more each day and the people in Taiwan are slowly turning away from this mess of a person and ultimately a reunification is inevitable whether you like it or not. The USA, should they fail and they already are, in Ukraine and in khazastan, more nations will ultimately pay the USA less and less attention to an ally whose words are growing increasingly worthless and also right now, not many people in the USA is wanting for a fight other then the war hawks that cannot be satisfied at all. So really, other then the USA and lapdogs in question, not many nations would really care or would be willing to send soldiers to die for Taiwan and those that do would withdraw the moment China starts bombing their assets with DFs (and be honest Japan and Australia are cowards that cannot and will not suffer casualties and would rather the USA to do all the heavy lifting when the USA as it is right now has the much more pressing issues to worry about like an oncoming civil war of homeless people and breaking down infrastructure and the ordinary people can give a toss about Taiwan then) and that is if China has any real need to do so when Taiwans internal issues are doing the job of ruining Taiwan for China to eventually unite with Taiwan at the Taiwanese urging to end the chaos gripping the nation.
In the end when Taiwan once again becomes part of China, all of Chinese enemies will either cease playing around or suffer the consequences and right now, unless the USA magically gains the resources it need independent of China and Russia and the Middle East increasingly, the USA has a very gloomy outlook that cannot be fixed by any president now or after.
So really ever since the situation in HK is over, what makes any think that Taiwan is going to be any different, both had USA involvement and is turns out increasingly, it ultimately amounts to j-/k s@&t
 
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siegecrossbow

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Nope. All F-16Vs currently in service with ROCAF are converted F-16A airframes with updated radars/avionics. The first batch of new airframes with new engines won't arrive till later this year.

Doesn't appear to be a problem with the airframe. The pilot has been flying F-16V since 2020 but so far has only 60.5 hours on the type, and 320 hours total (including flight school hours). Seems like an issue with inexperience discerning sea from the sky, especially given rumors of heavy fog in the area when the crash occurred.
 

victoon

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Putting your personal circumstances aside, I would observe that very, very few people on this forum have voluntarily served with the militaries of any nation, including the PLA. Some people here talk a big game but oddly enough don't follow through.

Also the talk of "martial prowess" is a bit of a loaded term. It makes me think less about someone who might do a physical activity for fun but rather an outdated view as to what makes a "real man" (and presumably what a woman's place is). So let's stick to news rather than discussions on society and how it should be evolving.

On the subject of news, a poll was released last month on how willing Taiwanese are to fight against a Chinese attack.

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Over 70% of Taiwanese would fight a Chinese invasion (falling by about 10% if Taiwan made a UDI). As for young Taiwanese, they were the most willing to fight, which would mean their response were over the average 70%.

Now you can say that you don't believe the polling, but in the absence of contrary polling for the same period I see no reason to disbelieve it.
I wouldn't read too much into these percentages. If 70% mainlanders are willing to fight against an American or Japanese invasion, somehow that will increase China's chance of winning? it will only get more people killed. PLA increased its fighting power by cutting personnel.

At this day and age, any talk of a military conflict across the strait with the PLA losing is pretty delusional, with or without US involvement. the only matter is cost. Sure Taipei can find ways to increase PLA's cost. But any additional cost on the PLA, will have a price on Taiwan as well. There is no scenario in a military conflict Taiwan will come out on top. I am a mainlander. But I treat mailanders or Taiwanese exactly the same. The reality is the mainland is big and Taiwan is small. So if the Mainland decide to use military force to solve the Taiwan issue, then Taiwan is screwed, no matter what.

To me, the cross strait issue is purely political, not military. Why? All Beijing/mainland need is a name change. Thus no leader will put lives on the line just to gain a name. And few Taiwanese will actually think changing from ROC Taiwan to PRC, Taiwan will make any meaningful difference and worth dying for.

That is why DPP is brilliant. They don't really talk about independence. Instead they focus on democracy, as if Taiwan becomes part of PRC it will be forced to adopt a different political or economical system. If the people of Taiwan can't recognize this lie, and thus become less willing to compromise with Beijing, then they will unfortunately end up with less autonomy.

If there is any wisdom in Taiwan, people should recognize now if the best time bargain with Xi to get the most out of reunification for Taiwan. Only a powerful leader like Xi on the mainland is in the position to give more.
 
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