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zxy_bc

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good article. the biggest issue with Taiwan sub project is that it is so expensive to build a sub, and that takes money away from systems that Taiwan really needs, just like F-16V does, I think anyone that pays attention to Taiwan is well aware of that. and since Taiwan has no prior experience in this area, the project will likely delayed, I would question if it will even achieve operability by the time a war breaks out, given the broadly accepted timeline of 2027-2030.
It’s widely known within ROC military that lucrative arms contract involving multiple foreign firms of various subsystems would fatten the pockets of many defence department bureaucrats. And another fat contract for the local factory to produce them.

Therefore it could be said that the sub issue is more economic and political issue than real practical defence issue.
 

Phead128

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US will not defend Taiwan because China is willing to go nuclear (tactical or strategic) over Reunification, whole US is chicken shit and only talks tough, no action (Afghanistan, South Vietnam, Kurds, Tibet)

US will be the first to blame Taiwan as "cowards" for no willingness to fight. US will say "why we sacrifice American blood when Taiwanese themselves have no willpower and motivation in self-defense?"
 

zxy_bc

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US will not defend Taiwan because China is willing to go nuclear (tactical or strategic) over Reunification, whole US is chicken shit and only talks tough, no action (Afghanistan, South Vietnam, Kurds, Tibet)

US will be the first to blame Taiwan as "cowards" for no willingness to fight. US will say "why we sacrifice American blood when Taiwanese themselves have no willpower and motivation in self-defense?"
It’s not even that tbh. If China is going for the liberation of the Island by force, why would the US expect to be aware of the invasion and respond to it immediately? Like most of the assumptions had the US anticipating the PLA incursion at the first minute and able to send all they got, it’s really unrealistic.

How much time the US need to be able to round up available ground assets and got them moving to a staging area? And how long will the US need further to get the 7th fleet steaming west?
 

Overbom

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It’s not even that tbh. If China is going for the liberation of the Island by force, why would the US expect to be aware of the invasion and respond to it immediately? Like most of the assumptions had the US anticipating the PLA incursion at the first minute and able to send all they got, it’s really unrealistic.
You cannot invade without being picked up by foreign intelligence. There would be massive troop and logistic movements to prepare for such a thing.

Any country with a satellite would pick up these preparations
 

zxy_bc

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You cannot invade without being picked up by foreign intelligence. There would be massive troop and logistic movements to prepare for such a thing.

Any country with a satellite would pick up these preparations
Yes they could pick up movements, but can they confirm which army is moving to Taiwan or other directions. For example, if the US satellite pick up limited signs of mobilization in the PLA Southern Theatre Command, will they not consider it to be an invasion towards Taiwan since STC is a South China Sea-oriented Theatre? (STC, like the Eastern Theatre Command, possess large number of marine and naval units, also perfectly capable of landing on Taiwan)

I am asking this because in the evident of a “wartime operation on Taiwan”, some of the STC units and installations would be expected to be folded into ETC command immediately.
 

Sardaukar20

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LOL. Chinese spying have apparently penetrated the top military command, even to Tsai's personal bodyguards.

Either the Taiwanese military have been severely compromised, or that Tsai is increasingly paranoid. Is suspect its both. Tsai must be trying to rid of military officers who are not 100% loyal to her pro-independence cause. And the Taiwanese military is perhaps more sympathetic to the cause of One China than we were led to believe.

All of that will be good for China.
 

Xizor

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LOL. Chinese spying have apparently penetrated the top military command, even to Tsai's personal bodyguards.

Either the Taiwanese military have been severely compromised, or that Tsai is increasingly paranoid. Is suspect its both. Tsai must be trying to rid of military officers who are not 100% loyal to her pro-independence cause. And the Taiwanese military is perhaps more sympathetic to the cause of One China than we were led to believe.

All of that will be good for China.
A flaw with DPP's ideology : fostering nativist, ethnic exclusivity and creating (out of thin air) weird migration theories. Some of it is so very asinine, it induces laughter.
All this will create 'othering' of sections of people, especially those who feel connected to mainland/chinese culture and ethnicity. And all this, in turn, creates 'fifth columns' in the society. The CCP, on the other hand, keeps insisting on togetherness and ethnic harmony ( because the CCP has realized the need to unite the various ethnicities like Tibetan/ Mongol/ Turkic etc).
Interesting times.
 

sheogorath

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LOL. Chinese spying have apparently penetrated the top military command, even to Tsai's personal bodyguards.

Either the Taiwanese military have been severely compromised, or that Tsai is increasingly paranoid. Is suspect its both. Tsai must be trying to rid of military officers who are not 100% loyal to her pro-independence cause. And the Taiwanese military is perhaps more sympathetic to the cause of One China than we were led to believe.

All of that will be good for China.

As far as I am aware, most of the people that join the ROC's Armed Forces as officers tend to be KMT loyalists and decendants of KMT loyalist, so it makes sense the Taiwanese brass is against independence.
 

Overbom

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As far as I am aware, most of the people that join the ROC's Armed Forces as officers tend to be KMT loyalists and decendants of KMT loyalist, so it makes sense the Taiwanese brass is against independence.
China could just announce that if the ROC's Armed Forces surrender, it would give them a 2x raise on their salary and their pension

And if they actively turn their weapons against Tsai and the rest of the leadership, it would give them a 4x increase in salary and pension while also giving priority for their children to get recruited in the army after the reunification

It never ceases to amaze me how the US dreams about a total warfare scenario when there are far more effective ways for China to achieve its goals
 
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