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gelgoog

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I have always suspected they would use technology from the Spanish S-80 submarine class which had US involvement in its design.
 

Temstar

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This bit of interesting news appeared on my radar. ROC tried to purchase two M68A2 105mm tank gun, basically the same gun used on M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System to develop their own wheeled assault gun platform based on CM-32 Cloud Leopard. Watervliet Arsenal asked them what the guns where for and they told them the truth. The deal then broke down because the Americans insisted ROC to pay license fee up front since their intention was to produce domestic copies and ROC didn't want to pay.

Worth nothing before the abortive M68A2 gun deal ROC originally intended to develop a domestic 105mm tank gun for this role, based on their previous experiencing on making domestic copies of the M68 105mm gun that armed CM-11 Brave Tiger. The requirement for the new 105mm gun was it had to be able to penetrate 500mm of RHA. This domestic project failed for whatever reason hence the switch to attempt to purchase from the US.

With the deal having fallen through ROC is switching back to attempting a domestic 105mm program again for the Cloud Leopard. The project have spent so far 118,970,000 NT$.
 

sheogorath

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This bit of interesting news appeared on my radar. ROC tried to purchase two M68A2 105mm tank gun, basically the same gun used on M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System to develop their own wheeled assault gun platform based on CM-32 Cloud Leopard. Watervliet Arsenal asked them what the guns where for and they told them the truth. The deal then broke down because the Americans insisted ROC to pay license fee up front since their intention was to produce domestic copies and ROC didn't want to pay.

Worth nothing before the abortive M68A2 gun deal ROC originally intended to develop a domestic 105mm tank gun for this role, based on their previous experiencing on making domestic copies of the M68 105mm gun that armed CM-11 Brave Tiger. The requirement for the new 105mm gun was it had to be able to penetrate 500mm of RHA. This domestic project failed for whatever reason hence the switch to attempt to purchase from the US.

With the deal having fallen through ROC is switching back to attempting a domestic 105mm program again for the Cloud Leopard. The project have spent so far 118,970,000 NT$.

Entirely amusing North Korea beat them to the punch in this area too...
 

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Temstar

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Amusingly the whole 105mm tank gun family in China which lives on in the ZPL-98A which arms the Type 11 assault gun (among other things) is derived from Royal Ordnance L7, which China bought an assembly line for from Austria a long time ago and have been tinkering with it ever since. The M68 105mm tank gun family of the US is also derived from Royal Ordnance L7. ZPL-98A might be similar enough to M68A2 that you might be able to fit it into a Cloud Leopard assault gun, politics aside of course.
 

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This bit of interesting news appeared on my radar. ROC tried to purchase two M68A2 105mm tank gun, basically the same gun used on M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System to develop their own wheeled assault gun platform based on CM-32 Cloud Leopard. Watervliet Arsenal asked them what the guns where for and they told them the truth. The deal then broke down because the Americans insisted ROC to pay license fee up front since their intention was to produce domestic copies and ROC didn't want to pay.

Worth nothing before the abortive M68A2 gun deal ROC originally intended to develop a domestic 105mm tank gun for this role, based on their previous experiencing on making domestic copies of the M68 105mm gun that armed CM-11 Brave Tiger. The requirement for the new 105mm gun was it had to be able to penetrate 500mm of RHA. This domestic project failed for whatever reason hence the switch to attempt to purchase from the US.

With the deal having fallen through ROC is switching back to attempting a domestic 105mm program again for the Cloud Leopard. The project have spent so far 118,970,000 NT$.
It's understandable. How could American firms make money if their IP is being used to make domestic copies?
 
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