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Tyloe

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crashing around Penghu island would still be their side of the straits so its away from breaching PRC airspace. Certainly radar tracked by any PLAN ships near by.

Must've been a hell of a 'glitch'. Are unintentional AShm launches unguided?
 
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FORBIN

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Tyloe said:
Hours ago, ROC ship accidentally fired an ASh missile into Straits. This is at the backdrop of the 95th year CPC anniversary on the same day.
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Corvettes Ching Chiang get 4 AShM but only a part on 12 have HF-III, 4 in 2015.
Ching Chiang class patrol ship (total 12 built) also are undergoing the same upgrade to carry 2x2
HF-2/3 anti-ship missiles with the new launchers that can carry both types of anti-ship missiles.
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Franklin

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The missile hit a fishing boat. Killed 1 and injured 2. It was a Hsiung Feng III missile their supersonic carrier killer. But the fishing boat didn't even sink after it was being hit. Of course the missile wasn't armed but still if that small fishing boat was hit at supersonic speed shouldn't it have sunk ?

Taiwan missile mishap strikes fishing boat, kills captain (update) | Society | FOCUS TAIWAN - CNA ENGLISH NEWS

Kaohsiung, July 1 (CNA) A Taiwanese fishing boat was hit by a missile launched from a Navy corvette by mistake Friday, causing the death of its captain and injuring other crewmen on the boat, a Ministry of National Defense (MND) spokesman said.

Initial investigation confirmed that the accident caused the death of the captain of the fishing boat Hsiang Li Sheng (翔利昇), while the injured crewmen suffered minor injuries, MND spokesman Chen Chung-chi (陳中吉) said at a press conference.

Those injured left the hospital in Tainan after receiving medical treatment, Chen said.

The local media identified the captain as Huang Wen-chung (黃文忠), and the three injured as Huang's son Huang Ming-chih (黃明智), as well as a migrant fisherman from the Philippines and another from Vietnam.

Navy Chief of Staff Vice Admiral Mei Chia-shu (梅家樹) said the Hsiung Feng III supersonic missile ripped through the boat, causing the captain's death, but it did not immediately explode or cause the vessel to break up.

Earlier in the day, Mei said the missile blunder, which occurred during a drill, was most likely caused by human error and by missile operators not following standard procedure.

The missile was accidentally launched from one of the Navy's 500-ton Chinchiang-class corvettes from Zuoying Military Harbor in Kaohsiung at 8:15 a.m. and hit the fishing boat about two minutes later, according to the Navy.

It hit the fishing boat an estimated 40 nautical miles from the harbor. A chart provided by the Navy showed that the simulated position targeted by the missile was in the Taiwan Strait, northwest of the harbor and southeast of the offshore county of Penghu.
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N00813

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Franklin said:
The missile hit a fishing boat. Killed 1 and injured 2. It was a Hsiung Feng III missile their supersonic carrier killer. But the fishing boat didn't even sink after it was being hit. Of course the missile wasn't armed but still if that small fishing boat was hit at supersonic speed shouldn't it have sunk ?
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I am guessing it struck the top superstructure of the boat, or just under that. Probably negligible waterline damage. We will not know for sure until they release pics.
 
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Franklin

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N00813 said:
I am guessing it struck the top superstructure of the boat, or just under that. Probably negligible waterline damage. We will not know for sure until they release pics.
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There are pics of the boat. I just didn't bother to posted them. :D

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MwRYum

MwRYum

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antiterror13 said:
you beat me :p I just read it now ... it is very interesting indeed, what would happen if it landed on PRC soil or China easily destroyed it? I am pretty sure Chinese radar would have detected it
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The excuse for war, something that the hardliners on all sides craved so much during their waking hours, would be literally landed on their doorstep, and situations would escalate on its own very quickly.

That said, the dead Taiwan fisherman, unlucky sod he maybe, probably saved a lot of lives...you know what I mean.
 
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Tyloe

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More info from Yahoo taiwan
The missile’s targeting system tracked the fishing boat, which happened to be in its path, causing a direct hit, Admiral Mei said. But the missile, which has a delayed fuse to increase damage to large vessels like aircraft carriers, ripped through the small boat without exploding, he said.

An officer from naval radar station claim that within one second after the missile was misfired, abnormal radar signal from Mainland Fujian was detected. The signal didn't die out until five seconds after the missile sank in sea. The ROC Armed Forces concluded that Mainland China refrained the interception because the missile didn't went pass the middle line of Taiwan Strait.
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schenkus

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Tyloe said:
An officer from naval radar station claim that within one second after the missile was misfired, abnormal radar signal from Mainland Fujian was detected. The signal didn't die out until five seconds after the missile sank in sea. The ROC Armed Forces concluded that Mainland China refrained the interception because the missile didn't went pass the middle line of Taiwan Strait.
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If the missile was detected by PRC radar, would it be because it was flying at a relatively high altitude or are there radar stations on the mainland high enough on some mountain to detect a low flying object across the straight ?
 
AlyxMS

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Tyloe said:
More info from Yahoo taiwan
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An ex-ROC navy official claims due to the curvature of the Earth, that piece of news is "utter BS".

"根據《聯合報》報導，曾擔任海軍情報署長、副參謀長的蘭寧利將此說法斥為無稽，他解釋，即便大陸「對空搜索雷達」能涵蓋台灣全島，因地球曲率關係，頂多只能掃描到3千公尺以上的目標，低於3千公尺就無法看到；至於搜索海面與低高度雷達的部分，一般偵測距離應該20海浬內，因此「雄三飛彈發射不到1秒鐘，對岸雷達即偵測到」的說法是「一派胡言」。"

IMO there's no question that PRC radar is capable of spotting the missile, but "1 second after launch" is impossible. That news is probably made up by the media.
 
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antiterror13

Brigadier
AlyxMS said:
An ex-ROC navy official claims due to the curvature of the Earth, that piece of news is "utter BS".

"根據《聯合報》報導，曾擔任海軍情報署長、副參謀長的蘭寧利將此說法斥為無稽，他解釋，即便大陸「對空搜索雷達」能涵蓋台灣全島，因地球曲率關係，頂多只能掃描到3千公尺以上的目標，低於3千公尺就無法看到；至於搜索海面與低高度雷達的部分，一般偵測距離應該20海浬內，因此「雄三飛彈發射不到1秒鐘，對岸雷達即偵測到」的說法是「一派胡言」。"

IMO there's no question that PRC radar is capable of spotting the missile, but "1 second after launch" is impossible. That news is probably made up by the media.
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well, you never know .... I am pretty sure PRC capable detecting it ... perhaps seconds not 1 second ..... a lot of spy satelittes too owned by PRC

will be very interesting if the boat was Chinese boat ... what would happen?

This is very serious issue! ... do you think the TAiwanese navy chief should quit?

Is this the tip of the iceberg of Taiwanese navy condition?
 
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