South China Sea Strategies for other nations (Not China)

Jura

General
Aug 23, 2019
noted
Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte to head to Beijing under pressure to take tough line on South China Sea
  • China should take steps to ease domestic demands on Duterte after sinking of Filipino fishing boat in contested waters, analyst says
Updated: 6:51pm, 23 Aug, 2019
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Beijing tells Duterte it won’t honor South China Sea ruling
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told his Philippine counterpart that Beijing will not recognize an international arbitration ruling that has invalidated most of China’s claims to virtually the entire South China Sea, the Philippine leader’s spokesman said.

The row over the disputed waters — a major global shipping route thought to be rich in oil and gas reserves — has for years marred China's relationship with the Philippines and other neighboring countries with rival territorial claims. Beijing has transformed a string of disputed reefs into missile-protected island bases.

Philippine President
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has largely avoided the subject in favor of seeking warmer ties with Beijing. But under domestic pressure, Duterte
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, Duterte spokesman Salvador Panelo said in a statement Friday.

Duterte told Xi that the 2016 ruling of an international arbitration panel in The Hague, in which China had refused to participate, "is final, binding and not subject to appeal."

"In response, President Xi reiterated his government's position of not recognizing the arbitral ruling as well as not budging from its position," Panelo said.

"Both President Duterte and President Xi agreed that while their variant positions will have to remain, their differences however need not derail nor diminish the amity between the two countries," he added.

He said that Duterte raised the possible joint exploration of resources between the Philippines and China, and both leaders agreed on the importance of self-restraint and respect of freedom of navigation.

Philippine Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana asked Beijing earlier this month to explain the activities of Chinese research vessels and warships in what the Philippines claims as its waters, and accused China of “bullying.”

Lorenzana said China did not ask for permission to send several warships through the Sibutu Strait at the southern tip of the Philippine archipelago on four occasions between February and July. He said two Chinese research ships have also been operating in the Philippines' exclusive economic zone.

Meanwhile, Philippine military spokesman Brig. Gen. Edgard Arevalo accused China of “duplicity,” saying the Chinese warships shut off their identification transponders while passing through Philippine waters to avoid radar detection.
 

Dolcevita

Senior Member
The timing of fon transit and the news narrative are intended to inflame and stir anger. Nothing new coming from belligerent good ole USA,

China since beginning did NOT participate in arbitration or does NOT recognize the PCA ruling,
There is nothing to honor or not honor. To honor or not honor suggest there is an obligation to obey or follow and
in this case there is NONE,
What the Chinese government likely said was "China has no obligation to recognize the South China Sea ruling and hence no need to talk about it."


now noticed
Destroyer USS Wayne E. Meyer Sails Past Fiery Cross, Mischief Reefs in Latest FONOPS
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I've already heard China, understandably, denied Qingdao visit to (probably)
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Aug 23, 2019
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Beijing tells Duterte it won’t honor South China Sea ruling
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Dolcevita

Senior Member
Pardon the language but It seems idiotic for the Philippines to arbitrarily recognize the PCA ruling, It is unenforceable and has questionable legitimacy to say least. It gets them nothing more than a kangaroo court legitimacy yet by own arbitrary recognition, it holds the Philippines accountable to the limitations as set forth through the ruling, It means that Philippines has forfeited recognition of any claimed SCS features as island whereby it forfeits any claim for such to have territorial waters and EEZ. This is specially true for Thitu Feature (Not Island), the largest Philippine occupied feature which falls outside of Philippine EEZ. Moreover, it weakens the Philippines own sea baseline claim to the UN as her "regime of island" claim, that was the Spratly islands(feature), are no longer islands and can legitimately be denied as such.

Philippines appears to damage their own core interest for the sake of spiting China on behalf of whomever.
 

Jura

General
Huh? what are you talking about?
"Lorenzana said China did not ask for permission to send several warships through the Sibutu Strait at the southern tip of the Philippine archipelago on four occasions between February and July."
link is inside https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/south-china-sea-strategies-for-other-nations-not-china.t7302/page-220#post-567588

in the meantime I skimmed over
The fuss about the Sibutu Strait
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Dolcevita

Senior Member
"Lorenzana said China did not ask for permission to send several warships through the Sibutu Strait at the southern tip of the Philippine archipelago on four occasions between February and July."
link is inside https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/south-china-sea-strategies-for-other-nations-not-china.t7302/page-220#post-567588

in the meantime I skimmed over
The fuss about the Sibutu Strait
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so what is there to view about? did you read article you posted?

read please
 
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