Sinophobia and Racism


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daifo

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US military is no place to be for any Asians unless you have a college degree/military school and entering as an officer. At least with a officer rank, you can beat off all the small flies. Moving up the ranks might be a diffrent matter, but at least you can avoid the daily chin-chong type of harrasement
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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A few Chinese Americans that I knew who served in the US military before the pandemics were all discriminated and harassed. Basically, unless you have great social skills or you are good at curry favor, most Asians in the US military are punch bags.
To be fair, most Asian Americans and Asian immigrants live in bubbles: the Korean Americans only hangout with the Koreans, the Chinese Americans only hangout with the Chinese, and etc. Of course, the younger generations hang out with each other; however, they typically won't intermingle with other racial groups. So, when they go into non-Asian areas and bring their passive and meek attitudes with them, they easily become punching bags for EVERYONE. Those who don't bring their passive attitudes and rapidly learn how to deal with the racists' rhetoric can easily survive and beat back the racism thrown at them. So, one must not only have good social skills but also proper upbringing.
 

SpicySichuan

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Even China will become more accommodating to immigration as she develop further.
Yes, China will have to become more accommodating to immigrants due to its populations crisis. However, I don't see China loosening its immigration policy until after 2035-2040, when the last cohort of childrens from 1980s boomers retire after age 60-65. Also, if simple manual labour be accomplished by robots and AI (while CCP maintaining the capacity to compel large corporations to pay more taxes), there would be no need to import large numbers of immigrants. Japan is already having a declining population, but Tokyo is far from willing to loosen its immigration policy. Neither does Russia.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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Yes, China will have to become more accommodating to immigrants due to its populations crisis. However, I don't see China loosening its immigration policy until after 2035-2040, when the last cohort of childrens from 1980s boomers retire after age 60-65. Also, if simple manual labour be accomplished by robots and AI (while CCP maintaining the capacity to compel large corporations to pay more taxes), there would be no need to import large numbers of immigrants. Japan is already having a declining population, but Tokyo is far from willing to loosen its immigration policy. Neither does Russia.
In addition, to be honest, immigration can lead to all sorts of problems. Look at little Africa in Guangdong and the Chinese community in Zambia. There are significant tensions between the immigrant communities and the locals. One can say that the West is making it larger than it actually is, but based on what I have heard from Chinese and Zambian local news outlets and my personal experience in the US, many of the reported problems are most likely true. Now, one can say that China should only allow high level immigrants to come in, but how about their family members and even friends? Nobody wants to see their family in dismal conditions while they live relatively lavishly. I have friends and family who did their best to get their friends and family into the US in the past. This will cause a snowball effect. In short, immigration needs to be severely restricted. China already has a ton of talent and should instead pass policies that would encourage or if needed force people to have kids at a proper age based on income and other variables. In addition, it should welcome foreign students and teach them necessary skills to enrich their home countries and should provide the necessary conditions that benefits both sides (they are already doing this though, so good on them).

Before anyone calls me xenophobic, Im not. Despite being well integrated into US society, I and along with every Asian immigrant and American arent welcomed here and viewed with suspicion. I dont wish this experience upon anybody else.
 

voyager1

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No you are wrong. Nobody wants the Chinese who only know about copying and stealing. They cant think anything of their own

It is true. Xi himself everyday reprograms the whole Chinese population on what to do. One day you are programmed to be a banker, the next day you can become a secluded monk.

I have also heard that Xi himself might be even programmed by another guy, he is the supposed mastermind and the ultimate emperor of China.

Legends say that at every point of China's history he was programming rebellions, dynasties, catastrophes, good fortunes. He is sometimes also known as the First Emperor of automatons. Chinese were never people, they were always automatons. This is the terrible truth that must never get out.

Sorry but I have to go now, I have been just informed that tommorow I will be transferred from the historian post to a PLA front line soldier post even though I never learned any skills relevant to the military. However, deep inside I know that tommorow I will have all the skills required to perform this new job, very strange
 

solarz

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In addition, to be honest, immigration can lead to all sorts of problems. Look at little Africa in Guangdong and the Chinese community in Zambia. There are significant tensions between the immigrant communities and the locals. One can say that the West is making it larger than it actually is, but based on what I have heard from Chinese and Zambian local news outlets and my personal experience in the US, many of the reported problems are most likely true. Now, one can say that China should only allow high level immigrants to come in, but how about their family members and even friends? Nobody wants to see their family in dismal conditions while they live relatively lavishly. I have friends and family who did their best to get their friends and family into the US in the past. This will cause a snowball effect. In short, immigration needs to be severely restricted. China already has a ton of talent and should instead pass policies that would encourage or if needed force people to have kids at a proper age based on income and other variables. In addition, it should welcome foreign students and teach them necessary skills to enrich their home countries and should provide the necessary conditions that benefits both sides (they are already doing this though, so good on them).

Before anyone calls me xenophobic, Im not. Despite being well integrated into US society, I and along with every Asian immigrant and American arent welcomed here and viewed with suspicion. I dont wish this experience upon anybody else.

I think China would open immigration to overseas Chinese long before they open it up to people from other ethnic groups.

I'm not even convinced China necessarily needs immigration. Even if we accept the claim that China will have an aging population, that does not mean it will necessarily have a labor force shortage.

If we look at the current economic activities in China, we still see huge amounts of manual labor in agriculture, construction, manufacturing, and transportation. These are all prime targets for automation. Even non-manual labor jobs can be automated: retail, office work, bureaucracy, education (via online courses).

In fact, I think the Chinese government will have more of a challenge in the coming years managing this transition to automation and the subsequent loss of employment opportunities for a large swathe of the population.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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I think China would open immigration to overseas Chinese long before they open it up to people from other ethnic groups.

I'm not even convinced China necessarily needs immigration. Even if we accept the claim that China will have an aging population, that does not mean it will necessarily have a labor force shortage.

If we look at the current economic activities in China, we still see huge amounts of manual labor in agriculture, construction, manufacturing, and transportation. These are all prime targets for automation. Even non-manual labor jobs can be automated: retail, office work, bureaucracy, education (via online courses).

In fact, I think the Chinese government will have more of a challenge in the coming years managing this transition to automation and the subsequent loss of employment opportunities for a large swathe of the population.
I agree with the overseas Chinese part, but I stouchly believe they shouldnt open it up to anybody else. That needs to be severely restricted to students/educatwion personal and international businesspeople. I agree with everything else though. Automation will take up a lot of jobs, so China most likely will have to deal with that, thus nullifying the immigration question.
 

Phead128

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Re: immigration in China issue.

When India eclipse China as #1 most populous nation next year in 2022, you will hear no economist or political pundit say: "Well look at that overpopulated nation with many unemployed youths." Instead, you will hear: "Oh, India's economy is full of human capital and has so much room for economic prosperity and GDP growth." But they jump to: "Growing too old" when it comes to China, but never say "Growing too youthful and overpopulated" with India. That's the problem with arm-chair economists and political pundits. They over generalize things because of an obvious bias against China. Periods of accelerated or decelerated population growth is cyclical and normal. The key is balance.
 

voyager1

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Periods of accelerated or decelerated population growth is cyclical and normal
They are normal yes but that doesn't mean they are good.

Modern economies are built on the pyramid scheme of ever increasing population. Social welfare, infrastructure, pensions (this the big one), economy, education etc. Everything is based on demographics only growing.

IMO there is no way that China can get wealthy if their population decreases dramatically as predicted. It is a pipedream.

Modern economics require more population, so something has to give in the end
 
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