Sinophobia and Racism


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Saibotz

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Is Germany or Poland a safe place to live for Chinese? I know France can be a racist shithole, to say nothing of the UK.
I would advise against Poland, it is a very conservative country not accustomed to non-white immigrants (read: xenophobic) and they are in general very sympathetic to the USA and are very keen to be seen as a good ally.
 

AndrewS

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I would advise against Poland, it is a very conservative country not accustomed to non-white immigrants (read: xenophobic) and they are in general very sympathetic to the USA and are very keen to be seen as a good ally.

@hashtagpls

True

But if you walk around cities in Warsaw, wouldn't the locals first assume that you are part of the local Vietnamese community which came over during the Communist days?

There just aren't that many Chinese people in Warsaw.
 

J20 RTS

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What's shameful is some Hong Kongers living in United States think: "Racism won't happen to ME, because I can tell those white people that you should hate the Chinese Gov't or CCP, not Chinese-Americans. Just educate them to distinguish the two.." OR "I'm from Hong Kong, therefore I'm the "Good" Chinese, go beat up those "Bad" Chinese mainlanders."

Well you IDIOT, they can't tell the difference between a "CCP Virus" or "Han Chinese Virus", it's all the same "Chinese Virus" to them. Americans also can't tell the difference between mainlander and HKer, it's all the same to them. So take your superiority complex elsewhere, you British grovelling dog.


This is why as a HKer who grew up in America that I identify with China and Chinese mainlanders. Our ancestors are from Guangdong which is Chinese territory. It's because the fate of HKers in US or Chinese-Americans is intertwined with the fate of China. If US and China goes to war, the Chinese-Americans (even if they are generational inhabitants) will be considered 5th column and unfairly targeted, just like the Japanese-Americans were interned during WW2. Well, it might not go THAT far. But we will be scapegoated or looked upon highly suspiciously.

That's why I think peaceful relations between US and China is critical for Chinese-Americans. So STOP stoking that anti-China sentiment you idiot falun gong types in US, it will only blow back in your face.
TBH, i don't think these attackers really care what nationality you are. If you look "oriental" you're fair game in their head. I've heard a Filipino nurse got called a Ch**k before in a hospital waiting room once. Racist generally ain't the smartest or give a damn.
 

hashtagpls

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OK. It is a matter of preference and you seem to chose women over food. Can't resist the exotic appeal for now.
Trust me, ppl rave on about australian girls but i am so over anglo girls; the typical anglo girl is subconsciously aware of the hierarchy of races and believes herself to be at the very top- this includes those asian girls who are assimilated into anglo culture eg american, australian society.
My experience in Europe is that continental european girls are much more grounded and less likely to dismiss an asian man as Long Duck Dong because they haven't been raised by media from a country dedicated to a "whole of society" race war against Asians.
Depend on who you work for or work with. In any case, I am surprise you mentioned the quality of life is better in Taiwan, I thought Japan quality of life would be better overall if you eliminate the overworking factor.
Oh no, i've worked and studied in taiwan and given the slower pace of life in the south of taiwan and the conservative but easygoing society, i'd say it ranks highly in terms of being pro-social and a comfortable place to raise a family. However, like in all asian societies the kids are going to be under heaps of pressure to perform well at school.
Don't know about your list but i lost my appetite for westernized Chinese food long ago. There may be a few authentic restaurants but they are far too limited. Even NY is a big disappointment. Chinese food are generally better in most of East Asia. The only western city that comes to mind with a good selection is Richmond BC. LA is also somewhat acceptable in selection of Asian cuisine.
Perhaps i am spoilt but australia with its combination of fresh produce and migrant Chinese chefs. I do agree that American Chinese food is shit compared to what you can get on the street in China and the rest of Asia. Food is "bussing" as the tiktok kids say.
Fair enough.

But my philosophy is to work on yourself, along with your business and finances first.
Then the world is your oyster.

5 years ago, I would have agreed that London has much worse Asian food than Sydney or Melbourne.
But these days, I would say London is roughly on par for food choices now.

It's mainly the effect of hordes of Chinese international students, whose parents are paying a minimum of 30K USD per year for tuition and accommodation.

Before Brexit and COVID, there were supposedly a million Polish people in the UK as well.
But I expect there will still be many in the UK afterwards.

As for Warsaw, to be honest, I found myself pretty bored after a week because there simply isn't very much happening.
Berlin is a lot better in that regard.
But don't forget about the language barrier and how frustrating it can be.
i find that the more anglophone a european nation, the more sucked into the anglocentric american propaganda machine they are; eg Norway. Totally cucked in the sense that most of the inhabitants speak english, look up to american culture and government and have a colonised peoples' love and affection for their coloniser, much as native aboriginal children of the Stolen Generation were taught to worship everything english.

Interesting thing you mentioned about the UK; i can only speak of my experience up til 2019; i found the UK to be the more China friendly out of the anglosphere. Perhaps the distance of the UK to China, and the business ties made the english more accepting of Chinese. Perhaps all of that has now changed with the Anglos' Race War against China.

My thinking is either france or germany given that they are less exposed to the toxicity of anglophone media and its subliminal anti asian messaging.
I would advise against Poland, it is a very conservative country not accustomed to non-white immigrants (read: xenophobic) and they are in general very sympathetic to the USA and are very keen to be seen as a good ally.
ugh, another norway in the making.
 

solarz

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But my philosophy is to work on yourself, along with your business and finances first.
Then the world is your oyster.

Agreed, this is why I hope Canada will still be safe for another 20 years. The kids will be grown by then. If war breaks out, however, things will go bad real quick, even here.

The safest place is still China, but you need either financial security, connections, or a high demand skill set.

Another place I would consider is New Zealand.
 

tupolevtu144

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Check out r/AZNidentity on Reddit, you'll be shocked at the state of anti-Asian racism nowadays. Things are literally so bad now that even the boba-lib r/AsianAmerican is starting to question whether Western countries actually care about Asians or not...

However this isn't the scariest, the scariest thing that I've read is a comment on r/Navy saying how his friend serving as a senior officer in the Navy is literally forcing Chinese-ethnic sailors serving on his ship to denounce China publicly on social media or he'll screw up their lives real bad. According to the comment two sailors have committed suicide already but the Navy is sweeping everything under the rug... Let's just say I hope that whoever typed this is a troll bullshitting us...
 

solarz

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Check out r/AZNidentity on Reddit, you'll be shocked at the state of anti-Asian racism nowadays. Things are literally so bad now that even the boba-lib r/AsianAmerican is starting to question whether Western countries actually care about Asians or not...

However this isn't the scariest, the scariest thing that I've read is a comment on r/Navy saying how his friend serving as a senior officer in the Navy is literally forcing Chinese-ethnic sailors serving on his ship to denounce China publicly on social media or he'll screw up their lives real bad. According to the comment two sailors have committed suicide already but the Navy is sweeping everything under the rug... Let's just say I hope that whoever typed this is a troll bullshitting us...

Sorry if I sound harsh, but in this atmosphere, any ethnic Chinese serving in the US military can only blame themselves for making that choice.
 

Dolcevita

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A few Chinese Americans that I knew who served in the US military before the pandemics were all discriminated and harassed. Basically, unless you have great social skills or you are good at curry favor, most Asians in the US military are punch bags.

This reminds me of Danny Chen and how the US military treats Chinese servicemen. The perpetuator got away with a slap in the wrist.

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Sorry if I sound harsh, but in this atmosphere, any ethnic Chinese serving in the US military can only blame themselves for making that choice.
Danny Chen made the wrong choice alright. Contrary to reality, he was too naive to believe he was fighting for equality, democracy and freedom.
 
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