Start to think in Russian military doctrine, and the role of Su-57 in it.Doesn’t matter. You keep trying to drag it into a Su57 v F35. That is outside the point. Besides in many engagements the advantage isn’t Kinetics using the ability’s of the fighter not just kinetics but avionics.
Oh and the engines of SU57 have not appeared yet beyond current flanker series types
Of course but they only buy for a year or two.
However in this case they have been languishing. Despite having been unveiled earlier the SU57 only numbers a dozen units well the J20 is double. Buying new SU35 and Mig35 doesn’t mean that they will match those numbers with SU57.
And optimistic ones at that. You harp on western fighters price tags but those are solid data not sales numbers.
No it’s a long running joke by the Russians, every year they announce the same new system Carrier/Tank/Fighter it’s just a few years away and then as the date comes close. They suddenly announce it again farther in the Future.
Again some how America’s stealth is bogus but Russian stealth is the real deal? Moving the goal posts.
The Russian military budget has three elements .
priority 1 Self defence and strategic nuclear systems
Including strategic ICBMs and SLBMs , the carriers ( Borei class) , sensor systems ( NEBO radar family, Arctic sensor network ) , SAM systems, modernisation of fighters MBTs, missile systems , helicopters.Priority 2 dual use systems and power projection
Yassen class, surface ships, transport planes, refuelling planesPriority 3, cost imposing systems.
Poseidon, Bulsevik ( that nuclear powered missile) , T-14 MBT , Zircon, manoeuvrable RVs and Su-57
The priority 1 items receive the best part of the budget, they have strict schedule, and if they late then receive extra budget, they try to make the slips as small as possible.
Now, the priority 3 items receive a small portion of budget, if priority 1 has any extra budget requirement then the money withdrawn from Priority 3 .
There is no extra money spent on those programs, because the only reason of the existence of them is to force any adversary to spend way more money ( preferable 1:10) than the cost of the system. Spending more than budgeted onto them defeating the exact reason of they existence.
The Su-57 exist because the Russian military mathematicians calculated that every 1 % of military budget spent onto Su-57 has to be matched by 10% of budget spend by the USA/France / UK /China ect. onto VHF,S band radars, integrated radar systems, multi sensor fighter jets, new missiles and SAMs and so on. Same game like Reagan's star wars program.
So, if the 170 billion rouble will be insufficient then they will just lengthen the procurement time , or decrease the number of planes , or anything else that doesn't require to touch the priority 1 and 2 items.
And this is the reason why Turkey need so badly a multi spectra SAM system.
USA don't want to sell anything that restrict the usability of stealth planes (and hasn't got usable system at the moment) , and Turkey will face the USA , Israel and Russia threat (maybe Saudi, or even Iran ) , that can't be seen by X band radars.
So, for them the S400 become prioirty 1, the F35 priority 3(maybe 2 )