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Rosatom factory in Tatarstan which produces Polyacrylonitrile (PAN) fiber precursor to manufacture high-strength carbon fiber was started up. It will support the production of fibers for MC-21 aircraft production (composite wings) and other products. This factory replaces 90% of previously imported fiber precursor products. This means Russia now has a complete manufacturing chain of carbon fiber and mats direct from petroleum products.
 

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Anlsvrthng

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About time.

NATO has been making Ukraine to be to Russia what Taiwan is to China. Putin will 100% not tolerate this and will take action

Only thing that should worry Eastern Ukrainian separatist forces is the Turkish drones and the anti-tank Javelin systems that the Ukrainian armed forces have been given
Nothing in Ukraine that can be interesting for Russia.

They don't need any part of the Ukrainan industry now, the gas transport capacity of it is redundant, all that russia wants is guarantee about the absence of any USA military system in the country.

Beyond that the Ukrainans can conduct any politics/trade that they wish.


And the Nord Stream II is not part of the equation, in the past 4 years the Russian LNG export increased to 50-60 bcm/year, to the level of the capacity of the NSII, and there is two-threefold increase expected in ten years.

The Yamal supply the NSII, and the LNG as well, means there is not so much capacity left to feed the Ukrainan gas export network.


Russia has 8 new nuclear icebreaker finished and in various stages of manufacturing, main job of them to support the LNG development/export projects.

All of this means the Ukrainan country/goverment will miss 4 billion USD of yearly income, equivalent of the 3% of GPD, and 5-6% of goverment income.

Hence the hyperventilation from Kiev and Washington about the NSII, they see the writing on the wall about the billions per year new financial request from Ukraine.

And Russia just doesn't care, even about the NSII, if the german doesn't want it then they will be happy to sell the LNG to them for two times much than the pipe gas.
 
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Anlsvrthng

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Ukraine Land is of interest to Russia. remember the food exports.
Russia exporting food since the mid of 2000s.

At the moment there is 41 million hectares used for agriculture , 17 million less than during the Sovier era.

Ukraine grain export is 50 million , roughtly the same like Russia.

What would Ukraine gives to Russia ?

If the Ukrainan farmers goes to Russia then they could produce +40 million tonnes of grain every year on the unused soviet era farmlands.

Russia has land, infrastructure, money, all that she needs working hands. Not a failed country, with botomless money needs.

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pmc

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Russia exporting food since the mid of 2000s.

At the moment there is 41 million hectares used for agriculture , 17 million less than during the Sovier era.

Ukraine grain export is 50 million , roughtly the same like Russia.

What would Ukraine gives to Russia ?

by control Ukrainian grain exports. Russia can better pressure Africa/Arab/Turkey/EU to follow policies that Russia benefits.
the same will happen to control over Turkey drone exports. I dont think this problem is going away.
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Anlsvrthng

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by control Ukrainian grain exports. Russia can better pressure Africa/Arab/Turkey/EU to follow policies that Russia benefits.
the same will happen to control over Turkey drone exports. I dont think this problem is going away.
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Just to put in perspective : the whole Ukrainan grain export generated as much hard case as the Russia gas transport in a typical year past in the 10s.

The nord stream 1 generating three - four times more money than the full agricultural export of Ukraine.

The full gas export of russia generating 10-20 times more money than the full agricultural export of Ukraine.


The whole discussion about the land of Ukraine is pointless - it carry no value beyon few nationalistic hardcore Ukrainan.

Again, perspecitve : Ukraine lost more hard cash in 2020-21 than the whole Turkish gross investment, due to the lower Russian gas transport volume / contract.

Tureky could be the biggest Ukrainan investor, but it showing not the strength of Turkey.
It showing the abysmal state of Ukraine, and the complete lack of attractivness as investment target.


Currently Russia financing the 8 nuclear icebreaker with the money saved on the Ukrainan transit contracts - and it could finance the whole LNG project as soon as teh whole project end.
 

pmc

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it is irrelevant how much Ukraine current value of exports.
In the absence of Ukrainian exports much more expensive North American or French grains will need to be imported and importing nations will have to jackup the prices of there energy and mineral exports to pay for more expensive food.
global warming will make that ukraine more attractive especially if it interconnected to Russian/Belrussia water and fertilizer system.
 
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