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sndef888

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I know the new VLS ships are probably better but damn, these old russian ships look really charming, like what a warship should be like with gigantic missiles on deck
 

sndef888

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By the way why did Russia use CGI for their su57 in the parade? I wonder if something went wrong or its just for secrecy
 

ougoah

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Missile and military equipment fails are common the world over. What's the big deal even if the Kalibr missile launch was a genuine failure? Always these western attempts to diminish and "laugh" at the other players while simultaneously inventing nonsense and exaggerating real events to comical heights just to mobilise the fear mongers and the haters. This is western society today, filled with exceptionalist haters and misinformed fear mongers. In response to those laughing at Kalibr launch failure, how about B-2 crash landing? Rife F-22 oxygen failures, F-35s dropping faster than any other modern fighter aircraft without even being in a warzone??

How about Indians allowing a ship to fall on its side in a dry dock or forgetting to close the hatch on a submarine? Entire IAF fighter range being jammed and blinded by a dated JF-17's EW suite :D

Korean artillery exploding. Indian artillery barrel failures. Indian missile failures which are countless and as poorly reported as their real covid numbers (an accusation they were all too happy to constantly assault China with in the past). 20+ years for simple Tejas, Arjun, and Nirbhay development and these clowns are super proud they fit an American torpedo on a primitive rocket booster to call it the SMART-est weapon since Chinese HGVs and railguns. LOL. That's real failure.
 

ougoah

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Anyone have thoughts on the new American accusations of China hacking and spying on Russian Rubin Design Bureau?

Funny how the Americans are allowed to make hacking claims left right and centre and act upon them without a shred of presented evidence. Just enough evidence for worthless media titles. Not too nefarious and dissimilar to last week's CZ-5B rocket stage in orbit drama which they themselves are guilty of doing.

Let's assume the charges are accurate and entirely truthful. That Chinese state wants to know something about Borei and/or any other platforms Rubin is working on. We know Type 096 and 095 construction are beginning and their designs long finalised. Could this espionage be an attempt to learn for the purposes of adopting certain technology trends on future Chinese submarine designs or just an information collection exercise? Which doesn't make quite as much sense since it's unlikely for China and Russia to head into becoming adversaries anytime soon. Unlike US stealing a sunken Soviet submarine and stealing Pantsir units or buying whatever Russian equipment they can for study with the intention to build an ability to better defeat them. I can understand China doing this to the US with alleged Lockheed Martin hacks - both to glean information for adopting and for building ability to defeat. Or China allegedly hacking US navy's sea dragon program to learn their Electronics Warfare data along with collection techniques and information they have on Chinese platforms. I'd consider those strategic objectives so where does that leave alleged Rubin hack?

Latter option of learning to defeat platform is kind of less poignant when it comes to Russia. Learning what they're working on and if there is anything to apply and copy is more likely assuming it's all true. Should also be noted that we don't know how deep these alleged leaks are and even the US cybersecurity organisation's claims include that it is not certain the actor was Chinese state. It could easily be made a scapegoat and their articles even allude to this possibility.
 

ougoah

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There is every chance the US or some NATO member was behind any actual Rubin hack. They would certainly be more interested in learning (for both adopting technologies and learning about how to defeat) anything new about Borei, Belgorod or any of Russia's "special" submarines including the underwater drones. If they did, and Russia eventually discovered any leaks, they would be the first suspects over China so who better to blame it on. That's NOT to say China didn't do such a thing.

It's also curious how American cybersecurity organisations could know of this in such detail as well. It's not like they were invited by the Russian state and Rubin Design to investigate any actual hack.

We'd need to see how the Russian state says and responds to this drama.
 

gelgoog

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The source is kind of suspect. AFAIK Rubin and the Chinese are already working on joint development of conventional submarines.
Strategic submarines are still considered state secret. But other countries have helped build nuclear submarines, for example the French are doing this in Brazil. I wouldn't be surprised if China could get Russian help with things like the hull or overall design but the propulsion unit and power reactor probably secret.
 

ougoah

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The source is kind of suspect. AFAIK Rubin and the Chinese are already working on joint development of conventional submarines.
Strategic submarines are still considered state secret. But other countries have helped build nuclear submarines, for example the French are doing this in Brazil. I wouldn't be surprised if China could get Russian help with things like the hull or overall design but the propulsion unit and power reactor probably secret.

I don't think the Russians would cooperate ever on nuclear subs and with nuclear PWRs. Anyway China's 095 and 096 propulsion are probably already finalised and designed if they're beginning to construct those future SSN and SSBN. It's not like you can begin production without having everything finalised for the first batch.

On conventional propulsion, China has already developed and used AIP for about a decade. AIP was only introduced in the Lada class and refitted with modernised Kilos. I doubt it's about that either. If there is some Chinese backed hack (and not American or NATO) China would probably be much more interested in hull design, materials, and other detailed specs. I doubt the penetration of any hack produces truly important information. Honestly I suspect the western bloc a lot more with this one since they would be far more interested in taking a peek behind the firewalls than China would. They'd also gain a lot more since war between China and Russia is far more remote than one between NATO and Russia. As usual, the US declares xyz but offers almost no evidence beyond sensational headlines. Rather suspicious they know so much about it as well.
 

Sardaukar20

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Russian Aerospace Forces gets a new radar.
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can operate non-stop during extended periods of time, which is a very important aspect of radar reconnaissance. And there is basically no room for human error as it is fully automated.

The system is a completely digital radar with an active phased-array antenna. It’s an active-passive radar that can conduct reconnaissance, detect aircraft and designate targets for air defense weapons without going live. In other words, Yenisei is capable of conducting radio
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Yenisei, for instance, can send information about targets to the multifunctional radars of the S-400 and S-500 missile systems. The S-500 Prometheus systems are expected to be
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into service this year, because all the components of the system are ready. As for the S-400 Triumph, Yenisei (along with the 96L6 all-altitude target detector) has already been included in the system.
Its called the Yenisei system. Wonder what would be the NATO reporting name for this radar system later. Its a highly automated APAR radar system. It also has a passive surveillance mode. Its about time Russia gets its own ground-based APAR radar system.

The Yenisei radar is equipped with remote-control stations, which allows it to effectively deal with jamming. For instance, the US Air Force has been so successful in many local conflicts because in almost every case, the air-defense systems employed by America’s opponents were neutralized by powerful and well-organized jamming systems.

They wouldn’t derail the Yenisei though. That’s because it traces and assigns targets with higher precision when countering powerful jamming. It is safe to assume that by accepting Yenisei into service, the Russian Aerospace Forces have removed the Americans’ tactical advantage.
Yup this is one of the desired characteristics of APAR/AESA radars. They are very resistant to jamming.

The system is very mobile, with a setup/teardown time of under five minutes. For better mobility, it has no outriggers, unlike the 96L6 all-altitude surveillance radar. Of course, the mechanical “paws” to level the system are still there, but they are extended straight into the tracks and not on the sides.

All in all, the Yenisei system is capable of detecting air targets flying over 100 km above ground (basically at the boundary between the Earth's atmosphere and outer space) and more than 600 km away. It guarantees continued tracing. It is a versatile system that accurately detects air targets and designates them for air-defense weapons
100km ceiling and horizontal detection of 600km is quite impressive. That's a world-leading specification for a mobile ground-based radar system.

This article sounds like a Rosoboronexport advertisement for the Yenisei radar system. I wonder when would it be available for export?
 
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