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MarkD

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130 mm naval gun for the third Gorshkov frigate under construction

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ougoah

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Easily the best MBT in the world. The technology is amazing. Unmanned turret is a big plus.

It isn't just the unmanned turret aspect which already solves many problems, but also the layered turret. It is more survivable and harder to mission kill than an equivalent that isn't. It is very clever tank design and justifies the generation gap.

On top of this, they corrected for new tank warfare where most tank threats are not sabots but missiles. Even then, the T-14 is at least as survivable and well protected against modern sabots as another MBT in that weight/armour class.

It is however extremely expensive and complex. That's a big drawback but the price to pay for certain capabilities. It's up to the Russians to consider if where they want them and how many. It's like a customised FN SCAR compared to the old reliable AK-47. Different tools for different tasks but having it and having the option is much better than not. Plus it's potentially exportable though I doubt any neutral or Russia friendly nation has it on its shopping list even if it could afford to buy.
 

Atomicfrog

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It isn't just the unmanned turret aspect which already solves many problems, but also the layered turret. It is more survivable and harder to mission kill than an equivalent that isn't. It is very clever tank design and justifies the generation gap.

On top of this, they corrected for new tank warfare where most tank threats are not sabots but missiles. Even then, the T-14 is at least as survivable and well protected against modern sabots as another MBT in that weight/armour class.

It is however extremely expensive and complex. That's a big drawback but the price to pay for certain capabilities. It's up to the Russians to consider if where they want them and how many. It's like a customised FN SCAR compared to the old reliable AK-47. Different tools for different tasks but having it and having the option is much better than not. Plus it's potentially exportable though I doubt any neutral or Russia friendly nation has it on its shopping list even if it could afford to buy.
Russian usually build rugged weaponry that will work without complex maintenance. It look like a departure from that. We will see if it works in the long term.
 

ougoah

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Russian usually build rugged weaponry that will work without complex maintenance. It look like a departure from that. We will see if it works in the long term.

That was much more Soviet philosophy and of course useful one too so applies where it fits. WRT T-14, they are simply leading the MBT generation like they did with the T-72. That was also a more complex tank with an autoloader and eventually heavy use of technologies like reactive armours and active kill defenses. I'd say Russian tanking has both been about leading and being rugged/reliable. Complexity doesn't really come into consideration that much. Complex can also be rugged and reliable enough.

The only "departure from norm" is really the cost but even that is honestly unclear because figures we have are unreliable estimates and based on small scale production. I really doubt the costs will be $8M USD a tank after big batches are ordered and made.
 
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