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Austin Powers

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The Super Gorshkovs should replace the Sovremenny and Udaloy cruisers. But I doubt it will replace the Slava or Kirov classes.
Those larger classes should eventually be replaced by the nuclear powered Leader battlecruisers.

No they won't. Russia won't build anything more than 7,000 ton 22350M.
 

gelgoog

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No they won't. Russia won't build anything more than 7,000 ton 22350M.

Yet they can build Project 22220 nuclear icebreakers about the same size as the Kirov.
They have already launched 3 ships and are in the process of building another 2.
Once those ships are launched in 3-4 years what do you think those shipyards will be doing?
 

Austin Powers

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Yet they can build Project 22220 nuclear icebreakers about the same size as the Kirov.
They have already launched 3 ships and are in the process of building another 2.
Once those ships are launched in 3-4 years what do you think those shipyards will be doing?

You cannot compare civilian ship with warship. Apples and oranges. No one is saying Russians can't build a 30,000 ton nuclear powered cruiser to phase out Kirov. The fact is they won't. They don't need it and they don't want to draw attention from the Americans.

BTW, the first Arktika class is operational.

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Austin Powers

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Yet they can build Project 22220 nuclear icebreakers about the same size as the Kirov.
They have already launched 3 ships and are in the process of building another 2.
Once those ships are launched in 3-4 years what do you think those shipyards will be doing?

After Arktika class they'll be building bigger Lider class which are 70,000 tons.

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This article claims the Admiral Amelko and Admiral Chigakov Project 22350 frigates will have 32 UKSK VLS cells.
According to prior reports these frigates were supposed to have only 24 UKSK VLS cells.
The first batch of Project 22350 frigates including the Admiral Gorshkov have 16 UKSK VLS cells.

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16 Feb, 12:26

Russian Navy latest frigates to have hypersonic weapon capabilities​

The original Project 22350 serial-produced warships built at the Severnaya Shipyard (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) carry two versatile shipborne launchers each
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MOSCOW, February 16. /TASS/. The improved Project 22350 frigates Admiral Amelko and Admiral Chichagov will become the carriers of hypersonic weapons and will be capable of carrying 32 cruise missiles each, a source in the domestic shipbuilding industry told TASS on Tuesday.
"The pair [the frigates Admiral Amelko and Admiral Chichagov] will be capable of accomplishing the tasks that standard serial-produced ships of this series fulfil. They will carry a larger ammunition load. A possibility is available for installing hypersonic weapons," the source said.
"Under the contract, they will carry four versatile shipborne launchers each and this series of ships will be continued. Each launcher is designed for eight Kalibr-NK and/or Oniks cruise missiles and, eventually, for Tsirkon [hypersonic] weapons," the source said.
TASS has no official confirmation of this information yet.

The original Project 22350 serial-produced warships built at the Severnaya Shipyard (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) carry two versatile shipborne launchers each. The Russian Navy is currently using the Project 22350 lead frigate Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov for testing Tsirkon hypersonic weapons.
The frigate Admiral Gorshkov test-launched a Tsirkon hypersonic cruise missile for the first time in early October 2020. The missile launched from the White Sea struck a sea target in the Barents Sea. The Tsirkon developed a speed of Mach 8 and climbed to an altitude of 28 km. The next test-launch took place in November 2020. A Tsirkon missile successfully struck a sea target at a distance of 450 km, developing a speed of over Mach 8.

Tsirkon hypersonic missile​

In February 2011, then-Deputy Defense Minister Vladimir Popovkin announced plans to develop the Tsirkon shipborne system with a hypersonic missile. According to media reports, the missile’s flight tests began in 2015.
In his State-of-the-Nation Address to the Federal Assembly in February 2019, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the work on the Tsirkon hypersonic missile was proceeding as scheduled. As the Russian leader said, the Tsirkon was capable of developing a speed of about Mach 9 and its striking range capability could exceed 1,000 km. The Russian leader also said that the Tsirkon could strike both naval and ground targets. Putin specified at the time there were plans to deploy Tsirkon on serial-produced surface ships and submarines, including the warships built or under construction for Kalibr cruise missiles.
Russia uses the 3S-14 versatile shipborne launcher for the launches of Tsirkon hypersonic weapons and Kalibr cruise missiles. These launchers, in particular, are operational on Russian Navy Project 22350 frigates and Project 20380 corvettes.
 

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Russia, Saudi Arabia Sign Agreement to set up of Kalashnikov Rifles Factory​

February 20, 2021
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Russia has signed an agreement with Saudi Arabia to implement the first stage of joint production of Kalashnikov assault rifles.
...
Riyadh will set up a plant to undertake licensed production of AK-103 assault rifles, as per older reports.
The minister is at Abu Dhabi in the U.A.E. to take part in the IDEX-2021 exhibition scheduled to take place from February 21-25.
During the previous edition of IDEX, Rostec CEO Sergey Chemezov had stated, “The Saudis want to domestically produce a large portion of the rifles -about 90% - while we would like to see less than that.”
Saudi Arabian Military Industries (SAMI) has an ambitious goal of producing 50% of defense equipment by 2030. Partnerships with Russia in this field include transfer of technology for the local production of S-400 missile system, Kornet-EM system, TOS-1A (a Soviet 220mm 30-barrel or 24-barrel multiple rocket launcher and thermobaric weapon mounted on a T-72 tank chassis), AGS-30 automatic grenade launcher and Kalashnikov AK-103 rifles. A Memorandum of Understanding pertaining to this was signed in October 2017.
...
 

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This article claims the Admiral Amelko and Admiral Chigakov Project 22350 frigates will have 32 UKSK VLS cells.
According to prior reports these frigates were supposed to have only 24 UKSK VLS cells.
The first batch of Project 22350 frigates including the Admiral Gorshkov have 16 UKSK VLS cells.

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16 Feb, 12:26

Russian Navy latest frigates to have hypersonic weapon capabilities​

The original Project 22350 serial-produced warships built at the Severnaya Shipyard (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) carry two versatile shipborne launchers each
1303443.jpg
MOSCOW, February 16. /TASS/. The improved Project 22350 frigates Admiral Amelko and Admiral Chichagov will become the carriers of hypersonic weapons and will be capable of carrying 32 cruise missiles each, a source in the domestic shipbuilding industry told TASS on Tuesday.
"The pair [the frigates Admiral Amelko and Admiral Chichagov] will be capable of accomplishing the tasks that standard serial-produced ships of this series fulfil. They will carry a larger ammunition load. A possibility is available for installing hypersonic weapons," the source said.
"Under the contract, they will carry four versatile shipborne launchers each and this series of ships will be continued. Each launcher is designed for eight Kalibr-NK and/or Oniks cruise missiles and, eventually, for Tsirkon [hypersonic] weapons," the source said.
TASS has no official confirmation of this information yet.

The original Project 22350 serial-produced warships built at the Severnaya Shipyard (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) carry two versatile shipborne launchers each. The Russian Navy is currently using the Project 22350 lead frigate Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov for testing Tsirkon hypersonic weapons.
The frigate Admiral Gorshkov test-launched a Tsirkon hypersonic cruise missile for the first time in early October 2020. The missile launched from the White Sea struck a sea target in the Barents Sea. The Tsirkon developed a speed of Mach 8 and climbed to an altitude of 28 km. The next test-launch took place in November 2020. A Tsirkon missile successfully struck a sea target at a distance of 450 km, developing a speed of over Mach 8.

Tsirkon hypersonic missile​

In February 2011, then-Deputy Defense Minister Vladimir Popovkin announced plans to develop the Tsirkon shipborne system with a hypersonic missile. According to media reports, the missile’s flight tests began in 2015.
In his State-of-the-Nation Address to the Federal Assembly in February 2019, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the work on the Tsirkon hypersonic missile was proceeding as scheduled. As the Russian leader said, the Tsirkon was capable of developing a speed of about Mach 9 and its striking range capability could exceed 1,000 km. The Russian leader also said that the Tsirkon could strike both naval and ground targets. Putin specified at the time there were plans to deploy Tsirkon on serial-produced surface ships and submarines, including the warships built or under construction for Kalibr cruise missiles.
Russia uses the 3S-14 versatile shipborne launcher for the launches of Tsirkon hypersonic weapons and Kalibr cruise missiles. These launchers, in particular, are operational on Russian Navy Project 22350 frigates and Project 20380 corvettes.

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Russia, Saudi Arabia Sign Agreement to set up of Kalashnikov Rifles Factory​

February 20, 2021
...
Russia has signed an agreement with Saudi Arabia to implement the first stage of joint production of Kalashnikov assault rifles.
...
Riyadh will set up a plant to undertake licensed production of AK-103 assault rifles, as per older reports.
The minister is at Abu Dhabi in the U.A.E. to take part in the IDEX-2021 exhibition scheduled to take place from February 21-25.
During the previous edition of IDEX, Rostec CEO Sergey Chemezov had stated, “The Saudis want to domestically produce a large portion of the rifles -about 90% - while we would like to see less than that.”
Saudi Arabian Military Industries (SAMI) has an ambitious goal of producing 50% of defense equipment by 2030. Partnerships with Russia in this field include transfer of technology for the local production of S-400 missile system, Kornet-EM system, TOS-1A (a Soviet 220mm 30-barrel or 24-barrel multiple rocket launcher and thermobaric weapon mounted on a T-72 tank chassis), AGS-30 automatic grenade launcher and Kalashnikov AK-103 rifles. A Memorandum of Understanding pertaining to this was signed in October 2017.
...

Gorshkov class is a potent ship. It's roughly on par with the upcoming Type 054B frigate in terms of size and capability. Unfortunately Russia's shipbuilding industry is very weak. Only 2 Gorshkov ships are in service 15 years after laying down the first ship.
 
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