Russian Flanker and SU-3X Thread: Videos, Pictures, News, Views


F-15

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Re: Russian SU-3X Flanker Thread: Videos, Pictures, News, Views

F I simply stated my reasoning. You can agree with it or not...and that is fine.



Cheers.
Like you have said you can agree or not, however i will give an advise, estimates can be wrong, thus you should clarify in your table that is an estimate, but if you want to be more accurate skip it, why? it is better to write the combat take off weight of 25300 kg than write the 18000 kg.

I gave you the Russian knights website where they clearly stated the Su-27 has a dry weight of 16300 kg, now compare that to the weight you have for the J-11B.

Consider me a reader, when i see that and i read that some people say the new J-11B is lighter than the Su-27SK wow then i think somethings sounds fishy about your data, it means the old SU-27s flown by the Russians are lighter than the supposedly lighten up J-11B!

Furthermore the SU-35 uses composites, why i know that

[video=youtube;K90HfqXy-64]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K90HfqXy-64[/video]

The video mentions the SU-35 has stealth technology thanks to composites, do you think the Russians won`t use more advanced structure.
See what Dmitry Litovkin says in the video.

To be honest you have the right to believe what ever fits your reasoning, but as an advise it is better to skip that data and number because it is not based even in Russian or official sources, they are western estimates that can be way way wrong, but it is up to you.

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F-15

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I have no idea, of course :) but great pictures here (plus that awesome video F-15 posted
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) ... does anybody have pictures of Su-27/Su-3X armed with X-31A (AS-17 "Krypton") AShM (I think up to four could be carried), I'm kinda interested in that missile (as some of you might remember from 'Syrian Crisis...2013' thread :) by the way why they're no new posts there?? I just checked the last one is from: 11-11-2013, 10:09 PM



[video=youtube;Sxhp1mKwpHY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxhp1mKwpHY[/video]
 
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In a video that @F-15 posted, pilot of Su-34 gives honest comparison between Su-27 and Su-34 (Su-34 being heavier etc ... ) Of course Su-34 is not Su-35 , but you could make some conclusions . Watch from 25:00

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In a video that @F-15 posted, pilot of Su-34 gives honest comparison between Su-27 and Su-34 (Su-34 being heavier etc ... ) Of course Su-34 is not Su-35 , but you could make some conclusions . Watch from 25:00

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It's a great video about the SU-34...and I watched all of it really enjoyed it. I really like the SU-34. It is a very capable strike aircraft.

But it was clear that the SU-27 they were giving chase to in the A2A role was not maneuvering to the limit, or pushing itself to the limit...and the trainer said as much at the end.
 

F-15

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In a video that @F-15 posted, pilot of Su-34 gives honest comparison between Su-27 and Su-34 (Su-34 being heavier etc ... ) Of course Su-34 is not Su-35 , but you could make some conclusions . Watch from 25:00
Among the forth generation fighters Su-27 is one of the best, the SU-34 (according to the program) can make a 180 degrees turn in 9 seconds. for the Su-34 it will take it 9 seconds, so 18 seconds for a 360 degrees turn that is quiet quick and nimble, an average of 20 deg/s
This is said at minute 11.

With this numbers the Su-34 very likely will dogfight several fighters with some degree of parity
more pictures for you Jura



 
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More for you Jura

[video=youtube;pHRmrZ9DV-A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHRmrZ9DV-A#t=56[/video]
 
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F-15

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thank you, F-15!



wow, that's exactly what I wanted to see :) four times X-31A ... do you know if these are Х-31АД (or the older Х-31А)?
i have no idea here are more Su-35s
















[video=youtube;AMvKOwhLRoo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMvKOwhLRoo[/video]
 
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F-15

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[video=youtube;nvtGtnoLz-s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvtGtnoLz-s[/video]











 
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